Quote: Griff @ August 15 2008, 10:30 AM BST

Well, Bloomsbury weren't exactly an unknown nobody beforehand - they'd already published Booker prize winning novels like The English Patient. But admittedly, Harry Potter turned them from a small firm into a big one.

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Well, no. That's true. Not quite "tiny little". But certainly comparitively small, like you say.

I wonder if anyone in other companies lost their jobs over it. Probably not, but very amusing if so.
 

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I fucking hate Harry Potter.
 

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Quote: sootyj @ August 15 2008, 10:30 AM BST

No one can do that.

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Aiming high there.

Quote: Griff @ August 15 2008, 10:35 AM BST

I fucking hate Harry Potter.

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I love the films, but the books are really quite average prose.

Quote: sootyj @ August 15 2008, 10:30 AM BST

No one can do that. It's more of a marathon then a sprint, constantly writing/improving. And superb is an opinion, you can only control the quality not how much it is appreciated.




But a boy band with the potential of genius. In the same way on this site maybe the next Croft and Perry, or Chris Morris.

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If they were just doing covers and no original stuff, then no, there's be no potential.

Someone on this site may well be the next Croft, or Perry, or Linehan or Nye but what that means is the script has to be like 75% really funny, and that's still a damn good script.

And you can only control the quality to a certain degree. All writers have limits in terms of how good they can write.
 

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I love the films, but the books are really quite average prose.

Aren't the films even worse than the books? That Daniel Radcliffe's a plank. I've seen better actors on Crimewatch.
 

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Quote: Seefacts @ August 15 2008, 10:39 AM BST

Aiming high there.

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By writing the poor and the average and the difficult, you examine your limitations as a writer and move beyond them.

Never be ashamed of not writing well, if your at least trying to improve.
 

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The ASDA of satire.

I hate purity, I hate goodness!I don't want any virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone to be corrupt to the bones.

But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.

1984
 

Quote: Griff @ August 15 2008, 10:39 AM BST

Aren't the films even worse than the books? That Daniel Radcliffe's a plank. I've seen better actors on Crimewatch.

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He's not great, I guess none of them are, but the supporting cast are brilliant and there's some nice ideas in them. I'm looking forward to the next one.

Can't stand Emma Watson though. She dos that 'stage school' acting that's painful to watch.
 

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Quote: Marc P @ August 15 2008, 9:38 AM BST

More gutting would be the folk who turned down the first Harry Potter book - which is the best of them -

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It was? Dear God the others must have been poor. I am sure I would have turned down Harry Potter, but then that shows what I know about publishing. Or what anyone knows really. Another famous example is Watership Down, which after multiple rejections was published by a tiny house who could not afford to pay an advance.

In the Arts, always remember William Goldman's maxim, No-one Knows Anything.
 

Sooty what is your avatar today?
 

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"'Reality,' sa molesworth 2, 'is so unspeakably sordid it make me shudder.'"

 

I think I liked the first 2 or 3 books then she got an accelerated case of the Stephen Kings.

Too profitable for any one to dare edit.
 

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The ASDA of satire.

I hate purity, I hate goodness!I don't want any virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone to be corrupt to the bones.

But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.

1984
 

Quote: Timbo @ August 15 2008, 10:42 AM BST

It was? Dear God the others must have been poor. I am sure I would have turned down Harry Potter, but then that shows what I know about publishing. Or what anyone knows really. Another famous example is Watership Down, which after multiple rejections was published by a tiny house who could not afford to pay an advance.

In the Arts, always remember William Goldman's maxim, No-one Knows Anything.

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The problem is shit load of good stuff gets turned down, that's the way things work.

Conversely, loads of terrible stuff gets turned down too, so I don't think you can look at Potter or The Beatles and use those as examples.
 

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Quote: Griff @ August 15 2008, 10:35 AM BST

I fucking hate Harry Potter.

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Shows how much you know!
 

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Me? The Brain from the Planet Arous.

A giant evil floating brain with glowing eyes.

Wooooo scary huh?
 

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The ASDA of satire.

I hate purity, I hate goodness!I don't want any virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone to be corrupt to the bones.

But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.

1984
 

Quote: Seefacts @ August 15 2008, 10:41 AM BST

Can't stand Emma Watson though. She dos that 'stage school' acting that's painful to watch.

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But you still would though, wouldn't you?
 

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Quote: Aaron @ August 15 2008, 10:45 AM BST

But you still would though, wouldn't you?

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Yeah, but I'd be insulting her as I did it.
 

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The problem is shit load of good stuff gets turned down, that's the way things work.

Conversely, loads of terrible stuff gets turned down too, so I don't think you can look at Potter or The Beatles and use those as examples.

I actually believe in the system, God help me. Nobody is looking to publish bad stuff. Even the dimmest script reader or publishing assistant can tell whether your prose grips them or whether they laugh at your jokes, and pass it up the food chain for the commissioners to look at. If you write something good, someone, somewhere will notice it eventually.
 

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