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SlagA
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Tom, Baumski, Paul, and I met tonight. Long talk. A lot of project members felt that the questions posted earlier today were too involved to vote on publicly and asked we make recommends based around the questions, so here they are. Please note, these are our RECOMMENDATIONS, the time to disagree or discuss is now, not when the script is being compiled. So please, say yes or no. See bottom of this for missing recommend.


SUBMISSION STAGE

The submission process: One sketch submission each with resubmission allowed


VOTING AT THE SUBMISSION STAGE

Should a vote occur at the submission stage: Yes. The other option (No, let the committee decide) is too controversial and open to perceived abuse.

Eligible voters in SUBMISSION stages should be limited to: Sketch project members (submitters / non-submitters in any particular round)

Members should vote either for or against each sketch submitted. Those sketches that fail to get 50% approval will be submitted to a critique stage where suggestions can be taken onboard to push the sketch up to or over 50%


There should be no topic linking sketches


Film the script but send samples to production companies although we can change this depending on circumstances nearer the date.


We should set an industry format for submissions and we'll provide an agreed template for writers to use


Tone: Post-watershed but mainstream (i.e. sensible use of profanity and avoidance of overt sexual situations, you know the area.)


Style: There should be no set style



Newbies: Member's date of joining the forum is the criteria, late-comers must now be voted on after an invitation from existing members



EDITING

There should be editing

1) Sketches that failed to pull 50% of members' approval should be opened to allow discussion between author and other members to discuss suggestions for improvement / editing / alternative endings? The author always retains the right to veto

2) As in all projects of this kind, it may be necessary to edit at the script compilation stage. Nominated and accountable committee members will edit sketches, as and when required. To make the whole process transparent, these edits will be reposted to the group with reasons and or comments as to why and where edits were made. The author retains a veto; however, use of veto will require a new submission.



The only sticking point was on the perceived need and nature of a time / word / page limit. This WILL have to go to a public vote because a consensus could not be reached. Even if consensus was reached, I think the committee agrees that the decision is too volatile for us to make a group recommendation.

I'll post up the question soon so that we can open up some debate.

As project members you need to voice any concerns now on any of the matters raised above.

With thanks for your time.


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When it comes to selection and / or filming; priority will be given to:
Simple sketches, with simple sets, few if any scene transitions, and keeping to a max of 4 actors. This is a pretty standard stipulation by broadcasters to help limit their production costs. So scripts or DVDs should try to obey those guidelines.
 
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All that sounds fine to me. Looking forward to it getting underway.
 
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Yeah, that seems good to me.
 
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Cool
 
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Triffic work team.
 
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No worries or concerns, lets press ahead. Well done guys.
 
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I think that there should be a maximum time limit of two minutes (which has to be justified), if you can't get to the punchline in that time then the sketch is too long. But ideally the time limit should be 1 minute or less. It also increases the chances of getting a sketch in. Other than that i agree with everything above.

As for voting I think the committee should decide what goes in. If there are sketches which divide the committee they should be posted anomalously by the committee and voted on by members, who give it a rating with no comments. The ones which rate the highest should be included. All voters would have to vote on all the sketches, not just the ones they like. The members who have sketches voted on should not vote on any sketches.

For voting to work we are going to have to establish deadlines for submitting, resubmitting, closing submissions, voting for sketches. Something like

submit by midday on monday. (probably by email to all committee members)

accepted/rejected by Friday at 4. (obviously depends on amount of submissions) (committee should email contributors telling them if they are accepted, rejected or put to a vote)

(undecided sketches) put to sketch project member's vote at weekend.

Vote ends at 4 on Sunday

committee publishes running list on Monday.

This could work weekly and as there is one sketch per person, those who have got in can relax and the remainder have a chance of getting in. The writers who have their sketches put to the vote could submit another sketch at the same time (before Monday deadline). If their first sketch is voted in then the committee can just ignore the new sketch. If their first sketch is not voted in then the committee should procede as they would for a normal sketch.

Sorry that was so long buts thats how I see it
 
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Quote: ajp29 @ February 4, 2007, 2:07 AM



As for voting I think the committee should decide what goes in. If there are sketches which divide the committee they should be posted anomalously by the committee and voted on by members, who give it a rating with no comments. The ones which rate the highest should be included.


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I think that's a good suggestion, otherwise there'll be so much voting for the hoi-polloi (and related admin for the committee) that it would actually become tiresome and a chore rather than the mass, fun project it's supposed to be.

Don't agree about a time limit, though AJP29, sorry. If someone chooses to write the Bohemian Rhapsody of sketches then they're already running the risk of it being bounced because of the length (in terms of the committee deeming it overly long). Not all sketches will have that overt punchline and will need time to 'simmer', but sometimes sketch shows cut back to a developing scenario with other sketches in between. I reckon people write whatever length they wish, but with the knowledge that the committee aren't keen on anything over 2 mins.
 
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As Julius Caesar said when he was on the senate steps.

"Pro Bono Publica"

He mightn't have actually said that at all. More like "Ouch!"

Or put another way I can't see any problems with these recommends and would say well done folks.
 
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One thing I forgot to add. Please read footnote that I've added to the recommends at the top of this thread.
 
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I'm happy with the lot, footnotes include. Good job folks
 
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Cheers again for summarising and putting this up Slag

With regards to the suggestions to time limit above we will have an automated vote with the mentioned options available so that the majority verdict will be put through.
 
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I agree with everything in the original post.
I definitely think there should be a vote by all of us on the sketches, not just decided by the committee.
 
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Fair enough, I'm ultimately happy to go along with the majority decision.
 
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Great work, Slag et al. Now, when should we submit material?
 
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