. . .

Now that's just plain wrong.


And re anarchy/democracy/democrat: "democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time".
 

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Winston Churchill, the world's greatest alcoholic crack head.
 

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The ASDA of satire.
"Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you."� Which is exactly what happened to Winston Smith. His rebellion was not one that was foolish and too outspoken. He silently tried to defeat the Party for his personal happiness, and in the end it cost him everything he had fought for, and his love for Julia. He had learned to love Big Brother, which was his ultimate fear when trying to live a life of individuality. The Party had defeated him.

1984
 

Gawd bless 'im.
 

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*cough* HIGNFY *cough* We're going a bit off-topic here!

(Just a general note to everyone: I'm going to be trying to encourage the Sitcom and British Comedy forums to stay a bit more on-topic now. It's to help those that are only here to read people's opinions on comedy, and not for example, three pages of politics. The General Thread is the place for a Tory .v. Reds war. Cheers)

So... back on topic... whether or not you agree with his politics, would you say Boris has been the best HIGNFY guest host?
 

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Mark
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Tough call. Got to be between Boris and Widdy Cent.
 

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This is all very fascinating. However, I'll withdraw from this i think, it is a comedy site afterall and not a political forum - as Mark has already noted.

But still, I cannot emphasise enough how bizarre it is to be amongst seemingly right-leaning creative people (although some posters are just fans, from what i can gather). Each to their own though!

Just as a PS, I spoke a couple of months back with a prominent London based writer/actor/comic - his words...'boris Johnson is a cunt for all seasons'. Perhaps that has heightened my sense of shock at the apparent pro-Johnson vibe on this thread. He felt, as does everyone I know, that johnson's supposed charisma is actually boorish arrogance, his 'intelligence' a myth, and his 'likeability' a creation of propaganda by the likes of the Daily Heil, The Express and the Telegraph. But again, I'll leave it there.

Back on topic...no Johnson was not the funniest presenter. I'm a Deayton fan, personally I think the bbc should bite the bullet and get him back.
 

The Observer ran a page of some of his quotes, and he can certainly put together at least a page of top notch wit.

Personally I think the presenter has always been rubbish.

It's basically the Paul Merton wears a silly shirt, and scowls at people whilst being the countries greatest, comic, and sarcastic person show.

You could put him on 4 slugs and he's still rock.

Like a mighty comedy baboon sharing a kill, he occasionally permits Hislop a few laughs, and rarer still some of the other guests.


He gazes with imperious contempt at the 3 guests, as the feebly read the autocues, and try not to cry and beg for mercy beneath his pitiless gaze.

In HIGNFY he is like a God gazing at ants.
 

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The ASDA of satire.
"Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you."� Which is exactly what happened to Winston Smith. His rebellion was not one that was foolish and too outspoken. He silently tried to defeat the Party for his personal happiness, and in the end it cost him everything he had fought for, and his love for Julia. He had learned to love Big Brother, which was his ultimate fear when trying to live a life of individuality. The Party had defeated him.

1984
 

OK, to add a bit of balance to my earlier BoJo enthusiasm: despite all the charm, and liking him when I met him, there is one thing about Boris that would stop me ever voting for him:

(From Wikipedia) Johnson became embroiled in controversy in 1995 after a recording of a telephone conversation made in 1990 became public knowledge. On the tape Johnson is heard agreeing to supply the address of the News of the World journalist Stuart Collier in order for his former schoolmate Darius Guppy to have Collier beaten up for knowing too much about Guppy's failed insurance fraud. Johnson asked how badly Collier was to be beaten up, and Guppy replies "He will probably have a couple of black eyes and a... cracked rib or something like that". The conversation ended with Johnson agreeing to supply the address.

No matter how much I detest the News Of The World and its vile stable of reptiles, this isn't good.

EDIT - Oops, just realised we've stopped talking politics now. That's my last word, honest.
 

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Quote: manchester's trendy chorlton @ April 15 2008, 8:39 AM BST

But still, I cannot emphasise enough how bizarre it is to be amongst seemingly right-leaning creative people (although some posters are just fans, from what i can gather). Each to their own though!

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Back on topic...no Johnson was not the funniest presenter. I'm a Deayton fan, personally I think the bbc should bite the bullet and get him back.

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Agreed on Deayton. Too much atention is paid to the individual guest's persona under the current format. It'd be nice to have some actual news stuff taking the show back again!

And despite that many people are showing appreciation for Boris (equal numbers doubting him though), I'm still confused as to what forum you're reading where the majority of posts are right-wing. Either you're further left than Lenin and Marx, or there's some secret forum I don't know about.

Quote: Griff @ April 15 2008, 9:49 AM BST

OK, to add a bit of balance to my earlier BoJo enthusiasm: despite all the charm, and liking him when I met him, there is one thing about Boris that would stop me ever voting for him:

(From Wikipedia) Johnson became embroiled in controversy in 1995 after a recording of a telephone conversation made in 1990 became public knowledge. On the tape Johnson is heard agreeing to supply the address of the News of the World journalist Stuart Collier in order for his former schoolmate Darius Guppy to have Collier beaten up for knowing too much about Guppy's failed insurance fraud. Johnson asked how badly Collier was to be beaten up, and Guppy replies "He will probably have a couple of black eyes and a... cracked rib or something like that". The conversation ended with Johnson agreeing to supply the address.

No matter how much I detest the News Of The World and its vile stable of reptiles, this isn't good.

EDIT - Oops, just realised we've stopped talking politics now. That's my last word, honest.

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Just two quick points.
a) I suspect that that's snapping your sibling's blue crayon in comparison to the activities of other MPs (on either side of the house).
b) Didn't the News of the World claim to have found a WWII bomber in a crater on the moon? 'Nuff said.


Anyway. Yeah. HIGNFY.


I still reckon Merton's been coasting for the past 3 or 4 series' at least. I really hope he ups his game in the upcoming one.
 

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I suspect that that's snapping your sibling's blue crayon in comparison to the activities of other MPs

What, arranging for people to get beaten up ? I certainly hope not.

BTW it was the Daily Sport who found the WWII Bomber on the moon, back in the days when they used to lead with headlines like "Man From Atlantis Stole My Pint".
 

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What, arranging for people to get beaten up ? I certainly hope not.

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I dunno, I think you'd probably be surprised.

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BTW it was the Daily Sport who found the WWII Bomber on the moon, back in the days when they used to lead with headlines like "Man From Atlantis Stole My Pint".

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Aaron
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Look at how many of TBs enemies died. He gave Mowmowlam cancer, with his evil smile.
 

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The ASDA of satire.
"Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you."� Which is exactly what happened to Winston Smith. His rebellion was not one that was foolish and too outspoken. He silently tried to defeat the Party for his personal happiness, and in the end it cost him everything he had fought for, and his love for Julia. He had learned to love Big Brother, which was his ultimate fear when trying to live a life of individuality. The Party had defeated him.

1984
 

So true, so true.
 

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Aaron
BSG Forums & DVDs Editor
(Half man, half Internet, half TV.)
(Loyal follower of The Magical Aura of Laura.)

 

Quote: manchester's trendy chorlton @ April 15 2008, 8:39 AM BST

Back on topic...no Johnson was not the funniest presenter. I'm a Deayton fan, personally I think the bbc should bite the bullet and get him back.

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You'll notice my question was 'best guest presenter' - I think the word 'guest' is very important as clearly Deayton was the best for the job too.

Then again, looking back I do now see why the BBC had to 'sack' him. That incident brought Paul and Ian's long-term dislike of him out into the open for the first time meaning the on-screen dynamic could never be the same again after that episode.

p.s. Seeing as this political theme won't die I might as well link to this Charlie Brooker article, as I don't think anyone else has yet. I'm not saying I agree with it, but its certainly been causing a stir on the net.
 

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Mark
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Charlie Brooker is fantastic. No-one writes a rant like CB.
 

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