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May 11, 2008, 12:28 PM BST
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I've seen the RSC and they've had some stinkers, they'll take any one who'll raise their profile.
Maybe he'll get lucky, and they'll be a role that involves pooing, wanking or both.
He'd be really good at that.
"A horse, a horse, my kingdom for an eeeurrrggghhh!"
I love it, and I watch every episode. There's nothing wrong with a bit of pantomime, and I watched some of the old Bonnie Langford episodes they're not as bad as they're made out to be.
It's the faux serious one's that can be a bunch of arse. Albeit Ecclestone was unusual in being the only good actorly Dr ever.
When I say pantomime, I mean it has a colourful campy sense of fun. Like Star Trek, or Lost in Space at their hights.
Scifi doesn't always have to be serious.
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But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
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May 11, 2008, 12:30 PM BST Edited by zooo on May 11 2008, 12:29 PM BST
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Weirdly, I found Ecclestone very pantomime-ish in the role. That manic grinning was just weird.
Each to their own!
I like there being light and dark in Doctor Who. You don't want it to be campy fun all the time. And Tennant is the only one who can carry off both those styles perfectly. In my opinion.
Ecclestone was crap at trying to be fun and lighthearted.
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May 11, 2008, 12:32 PM BST
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Aah but that Dalek episode, or the first one with Captain jack, or the the one where he got pissed off with Rose for changing time, or the Space Big Brother one?
And his campy friendship with Jack was about one of the best things in Who.
I like Tennant, and I enjoy watching him. But then I also enjoyed Tom Baker, when he clearly should have been on much stronger medication.
In fairness Ecclestone didn't do the light so well.
The ASDA of satire.
I hate purity, I hate goodness!I don't want any virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone to be corrupt to the bones.
But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
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May 11, 2008, 12:38 PM BST
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Quote: sootyj @ May 11 2008, 12:28 PM BST
I love it, and I watch every episode. There's nothing wrong with a bit of pantomime, and I watched some of the old Bonnie Langford episodes they're not as bad as they're made out to be.
It's the faux serious one's that can be a bunch of arse. Albeit Ecclestone was unusual in being the only good actorly Dr ever.
When I say pantomime, I mean it has a colourful campy sense of fun. Like Star Trek, or Lost in Space at their hights.
Scifi doesn't always have to be serious.
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Not serious doesnt mean pantomime though, pantomime is nothing like Who; to comapre it to pantomime is a sort of sneery point of view; nothing described as pantomime, except for a pantomime, would take that as anything other than an insult. And I love eighties Who, which wasnt pantomime-y either, just very badly lit, dressed and cast!
I always wanted to be a Judge, but I never had the Latin.
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May 11, 2008, 12:40 PM BST
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Quote: zooo @ May 11 2008, 12:30 PM BST
Weirdly, I found Ecclestone very pantomime-ish in the role. That manic grinning was just weird.
Each to their own!
I like there being light and dark in Doctor Who. You don't want it to be campy fun all the time. And Tennant is the only one who can carry off both those styles perfectly. In my opinion.
Ecclestone was crap at trying to be fun and lighthearted.
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Eccleson was a very dark Doctor compared to Tennant, I think his light and fluffy didnt quite come across as well as Tennant but I still preferred the storylines.
Really though Tennant has had darker stories killing the spider woman by draining the thames etc...Strange really
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May 11, 2008, 12:46 PM BST
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Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 11 2008, 12:23 PM BST
Some of the best actors in the country leap at the chance to be invloved. And Freema Agyeman.
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LOOOOOL.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 11 2008, 12:38 PM BST
And I love eighties ... very badly ... dressed!
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Goes without saying really.
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sootyj

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May 11, 2008, 4:18 PM BST
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Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 11 2008, 12:38 PM BST
Not serious doesnt mean pantomime though, pantomime is nothing like Who; to comapre it to pantomime is a sort of sneery point of view; nothing described as pantomime, except for a pantomime, would take that as anything other than an insult. And I love eighties Who, which wasnt pantomime-y either, just very badly lit, dressed and cast! 
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Well I like pantomime, especially as in it's hey day it was the most popular, and culturally sophisticated medium
Howz about I call Dr Who postmodern, which it is? It's endless clever asides, self referential remarks, sliding in and out of camp comedy, and high horror.
It's like nothing else, and that drab thing about a pie maker on 3 can only dream of being like it. In it's own way it's alot more intelligent than Lost.
But part of that strength I reckon comes from knowingly slack performing.
And Bonny Langford era Dr Who, was knowingly rubbish.
Ken Dodd, and Bertie Bassett guesting in the same episode. That's great in a weird sublime way.
The ASDA of satire.
I hate purity, I hate goodness!I don't want any virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone to be corrupt to the bones.
But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
1984
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May 11, 2008, 4:20 PM BST
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I know it shouldn't be, but it's still troubling me that you don't think David is a good actor. 
Silly I know. And I won't go on about it. But have you seen him in anything other than Doctor Who?
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May 11, 2008, 4:25 PM BST
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Oh he was fairly good in that thing on the guy with the head injury.
Shouldn't bother you, an actor is only as good as his material.
And how any one could do anything with that farrago last night.
The ASDA of satire.
I hate purity, I hate goodness!I don't want any virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone to be corrupt to the bones.
But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
1984
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May 11, 2008, 4:26 PM BST Edited by zooo on May 11 2008, 4:26 PM BST
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Quote: sootyj @ May 11 2008, 4:25 PM BST
Oh he was fairly good in that thing on the guy with the head injury.
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That's all right then. I will now officially let it lie.
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May 11, 2008, 4:29 PM BST
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Mind you wasn't there a scene in that where he was having a Tommy in public......
Method actor.......
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I hate purity, I hate goodness!I don't want any virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone to be corrupt to the bones.
But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
1984
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May 11, 2008, 4:30 PM BST
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zooo is in her happy place again.
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May 11, 2008, 4:46 PM BST
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Quote: zooo @ May 11 2008, 4:30 PM BST
zooo is in her happy place again.
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Brixton?
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May 11, 2008, 4:50 PM BST
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Cardiff.
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May 11, 2008, 4:53 PM BST
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Yay I used to live there awesome city
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