Quote: sootyj @ May 11 2008, 6:03 PM BST

eh?

Certainly there's bad camp Are yo being served, which is just lets laugh at the gay guy.

And good camp, e.g. Round the Horn, or Ain't half Hot Mum.

But camp doesn't have to be gay.

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Those shows are pretty gay though. Julian and Sandy?
 

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Well yes you don't get much gayer, or more radical and heroic then ROund the Horn.
 

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"Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you." Which is exactly what happened to Winston Smith. His rebellion was not one that was foolish and too outspoken. He silently tried to defeat the Party for his personal happiness, and in the end it cost him everything he had fought for, and his love for Julia. He had learned to love Big Brother, which was his ultimate fear when trying to live a life of individuality. The Party had defeated him.

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I've never seen Buffy and I haven't seen any of this series of Doctor Who, so I can't say whether it's camp any more. It's certainly used to be. One episode even had robot versions of 'Trinny and Susanna' in it. JNT's Who was camp in a different way - it didn't refer to popular culture much, but there was lots of whimsy and exaggerated self knowing - which are features of camp - which isn't just effeminacy and homosexuality. Most shows can still keep the allegiance of their viewers with a bit of camp, provided some barriers are not crossed. For me, putting a set of question marks on the Doctor's collar and a question mark on his umbrella, is tanking it.
 

Quote: sootyj @ May 11 2008, 6:03 PM BST

Certainly there's bad camp Are yo being served, which is just lets laugh at the gay guy.

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Owing to your shocking grammar I can only make a best guess at what you're trying to say, but it would seem that you're beyond help and rational thought.
 

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Are you being served, may have been one of the worst things ever produced on TV.

SLack, nasty, and just unpleasant. Compared to decent shows of the same era, Steptoe, Love thy Neighbour, or The Likely Lads. Why the affection for such a flea bitten old before it was young show?
 

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The ASDA of satire.
"Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you." Which is exactly what happened to Winston Smith. His rebellion was not one that was foolish and too outspoken. He silently tried to defeat the Party for his personal happiness, and in the end it cost him everything he had fought for, and his love for Julia. He had learned to love Big Brother, which was his ultimate fear when trying to live a life of individuality. The Party had defeated him.

1984
 

I might enjoy Dr Who better if Tennant didn't put on that awful Cockney accent.

I mean - why expect a Scot to do it?
 

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His accent's almost flawless, you silly sausage.

I don't know why they didn't just let the Doctor be Scottish though.
 

Well they had a Northern Doctor,

every planet has a north and all that.
 

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The ASDA of satire.
"Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you." Which is exactly what happened to Winston Smith. His rebellion was not one that was foolish and too outspoken. He silently tried to defeat the Party for his personal happiness, and in the end it cost him everything he had fought for, and his love for Julia. He had learned to love Big Brother, which was his ultimate fear when trying to live a life of individuality. The Party had defeated him.

1984
 

A Scottish Doctor would've been good! Though I spose the accent's a bit of a persona for Tennant.
 

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Quote: zooo @ May 11 2008, 6:28 PM BST

His accent's almost flawless, you silly sausage.

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I think Dick Van Dyke's cockney accent was much better.
 

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Quote: sootyj @ May 11 2008, 6:12 PM BST

Are you being served, may have been one of the worst things ever produced on TV.

SLack, nasty, and just unpleasant. Compared to decent shows of the same era, Steptoe, Love thy Neighbour, or The Likely Lads. Why the affection for such a flea bitten old before it was young show?

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Quote: sootyj @ May 11 2008, 6:12 PM BST

Are you being served, may have been one of the worst things ever produced on TV.

SLack, nasty, and just unpleasant. Compared to decent shows of the same era, Steptoe, Love thy Neighbour, or The Likely Lads. Why the affection for such a flea bitten old before it was young show?

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I think you'll find it was a later era than Steptoe or the Likely Lads.

Love thy Neighbour was rubbish though. It was on ITV.
 

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ITV isn't inextricably linked with rubbish. Not even now. They may have had more of a shit than hit ratio, but they've had a reasonable share of quality programmes too.

It's a bit hard to argue because of the network nature of ITV though.
 

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I can't be arsed to go back through this thread to find what people have said about this week's Dr.Who.

It's a verdict of two parts from Griff.

Re Dr.Who's daughter: would.

Re the episode: wish I hadn't.
 

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