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The Meeting - an insight
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Hello!
Just got in from my meeting in London and I thought I'd give you a bit of an insight so if you get asked down by a producer, you know what to expect.
It was a nerve-racking experience, mainly because I was being looked over by a Bafta and 2 Comedy Awards in the meeting room! Weird stuff.
Both the producer and development head were great, lovely guys who both loved the script and were really positive about it.
They asked a bit about me and my writing, and the producer in particular was complimentary about me as a writer.
They said most of the unsolicited stuff they get - which gets through the net - is shit.
They asked what channel I saw it on, if I'd considered who to cast, and then we discussed ages of characters, sets, jobs.
Basically anything media based is out, even one off plots are frowned upon and it seems the BBC are looking for audience shows for pre-watershed BBC1 and post-BBC2. So there's who to aim for!
One very interesting thing was that they said that layout doesn't REALLY matter as long as it LOOKS like a script. So it doesn't have to be done in that BBC way that the scripts in their archive are.
Then they asked if I wanted to pitch it to the BBC - after my jaw hit the ground I said yes!
He said I should have no problem getting an agent - I was just staggered by all this, of course.
So I'm going to cut it down - it needs to be 40-45 pages, which I didn't know - so that's a good one to remember - then it could well be pitching time.
It was so bizarre talking about something I wrote in my spare time with such gravitas and seriousness.
Then I ate a jacket potato, looked round the big smoke, then came home!
I'm still on a high!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
Well done SeeFacts, let us know of any developments, and thanks for sharing your experience 
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Blenkinsop said:
Very well done. That all sounds most encouraging and glad it went well.
But as you're on a high, I'll bring you back to more mundane matters so you can sleep tonight - What filling did you have in the jacet potato?
But seriously well done!!! Get trimming and let's see it on goggle box soon.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, swerytd said:
Hehe -- quality! Well done, mate! Geniunely pleased for you. Good luck with it too; hope you get somewhere and thanks loads for posting.
I've not got as far as this with stuff but have been sat with media types with regards to my stuff (even got a bit recorded as a training exercise with a well-known company) and being referred to as 'the writers' and everyone (producer, director, PAs, etc) running around careful not to 'intrude' or 'offend' your script was bizarrely surreal -- like you said, amazing people take something you do cooped up in your spare time so seriously!
Also, the difference in attitude between saying 'I'm a writer' to 'I'm an IT consultant' was such a measured difference I almost quit the day job due to the reaction!
Dan
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: Blenkinsop @ February 29, 2008, 7:59 PMVery well done. That all sounds most encouraging and glad it went well.
But as you're on a high, I'll bring you back to more mundane matters so you can sleep tonight - What filling did you have in the jacet potato?
But seriously well done!!! Get trimming and let's see it on goggle box soon.
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Cheese and beans. It was horrible. Really mushy like porridge.
And I ate too many Polos so felt a bit rough after.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Ray Dawson said:
I'm made up for you seefacts. Well done mate.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Blenkinsop said:
Quote: Seefacts @ February 29, 2008, 8:00 PMCheese and beans. It was horrible. Really mushy like porridge.
And I ate too many Polos so felt a bit rough after.
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Lay off those polos they're no good for you. As a writer you should be on 60 tabs a day and 3 bottles of brandy.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Ray Dawson said:
He is! That's why he needed the polos 
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Winterlight said:
Thats great news!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, sootyj said:
Congratulations you've made it. May that foul potato be the worst bit of the experience.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Dolly Dagger said:
Thanks for sharing your experience and tips. All the best with your project, hope it all works out, must be very exciting.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: sootyj @ February 29, 2008, 8:13 PMCongratulations you've made it. May that foul potato be the worst bit of the experience.
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Well, there's a long way to go yet - but it's certainly a foot in the door.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, sootyj said:
Look your on the next level, if you got knock backed at this stage, its a budget or lack of vision thing on the production side of things.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mannikin Bird said:
What a great experience, it sounds really positive. Good luck with the cutting down and fingers crossed with the next stage.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mark said:
Wow fantastic! I look forward to being able to write a guide about your show for this website (that's when you know you've really made it 
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On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Ironhide said:
Well done mate. Good luck!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Frankie Rage said:
Sincerely well done. It's quite something to have a piece of work taken so seriously by people at that level!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Matthew Stott said:
Yep, a big well done; good luck with it.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Paul W said:
Well done seefacts, you seem a smart guy and I've liked what little of your work I have read.
Congrats again!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mike Greybloke said:
Congratulations, that's great!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Up4it said:
Wow! It's great to hear about someone having some success with their scribbles.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Charley said:
Wooooo! Well done Mate.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
SeeFacts you'll could be the first writer to be negatively critiqued in 2 forums. I say negatively because now you're successful we'll all turn from ego maniacs into jealous resentful gits.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Wildjesusfishkid said:
Well done mate.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, roscoff said:
I'd like to say well done but....well done! If it goes onwards it could be a damn good blog as well.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
Brilliant mate.
Don't forget to tell them who taught you all you know.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: roscoff @ February 29, 2008, 10:11 PMI'd like to say well done but....well done! If it goes onwards it could be a damn good blog as well.
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Yeah, if it goes well I'll be launching my website plus blog to document the whole process.
But that's IF - nothings happened yet!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ShoePie said:
Congratulations!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, hotzappa11 said:
Congratulations! But you didn't drop any names, hehe.
p.s. How did you get in contact with the producer people, if you don't mind me asking.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Badge said:
At the risk of repeating what others have said...
Great news, and serious congrats for the effort to get there. Hope it all goes well from here onwards too!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: hotzappa11 @ February 29, 2008, 11:28 PMCongratulations! But you didn't drop any names, hehe.
p.s. How did you get in contact with the producer people, if you don't mind me asking.
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You write to them.
Yes, it IS that simple.
I think it's a bit of a myth that there's no opportunities. It's not easy, sure, but if you're good enough - it'll happen.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Frankie Rage said:
That's the truth.
If you're big enough, go and get it!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
I'm glad about the layout thing.
I thought as long as it's clear it shouldn't matter.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: David Chapman @ February 29, 2008, 11:52 PMI'm glad about the layout thing.
I thought as long as it's clear it shouldn't matter.
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Yeah, it's good news that one.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Bohannon said:
Great stuff! Looking forward to tuning in.
Bo.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, catskillz said:
Congratulations.
By the way, what's the Production Company called?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, JohnnyD said:
I like the way you're all pretending to be happy, when really you're all burning up inside! 
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Tim Walker said:
Surely people can be genuinely pleased for a BSG colleague whilst still being jealous? Let's not get too cynical please. (Besides, Seefacts isn't the only writer on this site to get meetings, as I'm sure he'd acknowledge. It's good for people to share their experiences of the 'process'.)
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Bussell said:
Nice work, Seefacts. Couldn't be happier for you. Keep us updated.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: JohnnyD @ March 1, 2008, 8:09 AMI like the way you're all pretending to be happy, when really you're all burning up inside!
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Ha, I wads waiting for that.
I posted that a while ago when someone did well.
It was half in jest, and it split the board right down the middle.
Quote: catskillz @ March 1, 2008, 4:30 AMCongratulations.
By the way, what's the Production Company called?
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I won't give it away yet, but they're one of the biggest in the UK.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, sootyj said:
When some on climbs out of the toilet bowel of life into the shining light of the bathroom. It give hope to all us little turds still floating in the darkness.
I'm happy for you, and profoundly jealous at the same time.
But thats ok I'm Bill Gates, and I have my piles of cash to keep me happy.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
Oh it was yooou who said that last time, in that case, I lol.
Thanks for telling us all this Seefacts! you could have kept it all to yourself. Are your mummy and daddy all proud?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Rob B said:
Well done Seefacts. Gives everyone a bit of hope, that after it all it just comes down to the writing. If you're good enough and work hard enough you'll achieve it in the end. Top stuff
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: zooo @ March 1, 2008, 11:25 AMOh it was yooou who said that last time, in that case, I lol.
Thanks for telling us all this Seefacts! you could have kept it all to yourself. Are your mummy and daddy all proud?
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All my dad keeps saying is 'Well, don't quit your job just yet'.
When that happens I'll be delighted though - when I send round that final goodbye email saying I'm off to work in television it'd be so sweet, especially the people who don't like me.
Thanks again for the kind words. I plan to keep you all informed just so we all get a better idea of the process.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, steve by any other name said:
That all sounds positive Seefacts, well done indeed.
I don't know how long your script is at present, but my advice on trimming it down would be to take out what you think can go, and then take out a whole lot more. It helps, in my experience, to have someone less attached to it to oversee the process if you can trust anyone.
I was recently asked to trim my 67 pages down and I returned 53 pages after changing from 12pt to 11pt font lost 4 pages (as it had been suggested that the large font may be a reason that it took only about 30 mins to read but ran to so many pages) and much soul searching and sacrifice lost me another 9.
I was then given a copy highlighting suggestions as to what else could be removed and, to my horror, it was a lot of my favourite jokes. I dutifully hacked it down to 45 pages to discover that it was actually much better. Despite the loss of jokes, most of which were at the end of a scene after the 'business' had been done and we're added to make the laughter count as high as possible, clearly at the expense of the story.
So, be ruthless and you'll end up with a tighter all together better script. But it is a painful process.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: steve by any other name @ March 1, 2008, 11:31 AMThat all sounds positive Seefacts, well done indeed.
I don't know how long your script is at present, but my advice on trimming it down would be to take out what you think can go, and then take out a whole lot more. It helps, in my experience, to have someone less attached to it to oversee the process if you can trust anyone.
I was recently asked to trim my 67 pages down and I returned 53 pages after changing from 12pt to 11pt font lost 4 pages (as it had been suggested that the large font may be a reason that it took only about 30 mins to read but ran to so many pages) and much soul searching and sacrifice lost me another 9.
I was then given a copy highlighting suggestions as to what else could be removed and, to my horror, it was a lot of my favourite jokes. I dutifully hacked it down to 45 pages to discover that it was actually much better. Despite the loss of jokes, most of which were at the end of a scene after the 'business' had been done and we're added to make the laughter count as high as possible, clearly at the expense of the story.
So, be ruthless and you'll end up with a tighter all together better script. But it is a painful process.
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The format change has cut it down a lot, and it's a lot easier taking bits out when you know it's still going to get read/pitched.
Before I'd be agonizing about the best jokes I was told 'they can go in episode 2' so that's a relief.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, steve by any other name said:
Being a sad writer type person I bought the script book for Four Weddings and read it from cover to cover, including the out takes in the appendices at the back.
Years later, one of those deleted scenes turned up in Love Actually. At the time I thought 'you lazy...', but now, I can completely understand.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Winterlight said:
I know you don't want to give much away, but what sort of sitcom is it? A trad sitcom or something more contemporary?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: Winterlight @ March 1, 2008, 2:45 PMI know you don't want to give much away, but what sort of sitcom is it? A trad sitcom or something more contemporary?
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Trad.
They seemed pleasantly surprised when I told them I wrote audience stuff.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Winterlight said:
Perhaps they're sensing a change in the market.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: Winterlight @ March 1, 2008, 2:55 PMPerhaps they're sensing a change in the market.
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As I've said, I was told pre-watershed for BBC1 and post for 2.
If the first part of the . . . noughties . . . was naturalistic, the last is audience.
I was told there's never a better time to be pitching broader audience based shows. I think I've potentially broken through at an ideal time.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Paul Carroll said:
Well Done Seefacts mate! And hope to see it on the television soon!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Perry Nium said:
Well done Seefacts. Bloody marvellous. Just goes to prove that talent and initiative is all you need.
Have they spoke about filming a taster or will it pitched on script alone?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: Perry Nium @ March 1, 2008, 4:29 PMWell done Seefacts. Bloody marvellous. Just goes to prove that talent and initiative is all you need.
Have they spoke about filming a taster or will it pitched on script alone?
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Not sure yet.
A live audience read was mentioned, so that could be possibility.
Hopefully all should become clear over the next 4 weeks.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
Yays!
How old are you please, Mr. Seefacts?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: zooo @ March 1, 2008, 4:32 PMYays!
How old are you please, Mr. Seefacts?
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I'm 71.
Ha, not really.
I've just turned 23.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
I just wanted to make all the old people who haven't had a meeting with a producer yet feel really inferior.
But it's backfired. 
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: zooo @ March 1, 2008, 4:34 PMI just wanted to make all the old people who haven't had a meeting with a producer yet feel really inferior.
But it's backfired.
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Sorry . . .
I'm 71, don't you know.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
That's better!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Bussell said:
Quote: Seefacts @ March 1, 2008, 4:33 PM
I've just turned 23.
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Suddenly my good cheer dried up.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: David Bussell @ March 1, 2008, 5:20 PMSuddenly my good cheer dried up.
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Sorry . . .
I'm 71 . . .
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, hotzappa11 said:
2 years older than me, well, 1 year older come April. Not that this really has anything to do with the subject.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Pilot said:
Hi Seefacts, just a question about the prodco, did they accept unsolicited submissions or not? If not do you have any advice on how to get it through?
Thanks
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: Pilot @ March 1, 2008, 6:23 PMHi Seefacts, just a question about the prodco, did they accept unsolicited submissions or not? If not do you have any advice on how to get it through?
Thanks
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They don't, but they get sent them anyway and do sometimes read them. I sent mine to freelance, who happened to have a good relationship with a indie.
They said they get annoyed at ones with no name, and won't read a 'Dear sir/madam'. It seems to me if they flick through it and like it, they'll read it all and give it a go. The problem is finding someone within a company to write, as no one ever knows the names of the comedy development people.
I've always known this was the case - I've had a few places read my stuff who, on the outside, say they don't read unsolicited, but if you aim at the right person - they will.
From what I can gather 99.999% of unsolicited stuff any company gets sent is shit.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Perry Nium said:
Quote: Seefacts @ March 1, 2008, 4:33 PMI'm 71.
Ha, not really.
I've just turned 23.
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You fucking fucking fucking bastard. I'm 36 tomorrow.
THIRTY SIX, DAMN YOU!!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
I shouldn't have asked.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Even at 23 I feel a bit old.
I was about 20 when things started kicking off for me, but I've had to wait.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, swerytd said:
Quote: Perry Nium @ March 1, 2008, 7:26 PM
I'm 36 tomorrow.
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*LOL*
Just had a *great* (dark) sitcom idea...
Dan
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Perry Nium said:
Quote: Seefacts @ March 1, 2008, 7:42 PMEven at 23 I feel a bit old.
I was about 20 when things started kicking off for me, but I've had to wait.
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Yes things started happening to me too when I was 23...I started losing my hair and I got married. Or was it the other way around...
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Winterlight said:
23's a good age to be. I had a good 23.
It's always worth enquiring whether places accept unsolicited material, even if their website states otherwise. I rang one company up once and they said that they didn't accept unsolicited sketches, but seeing as I'd rung they'd take a look and keep my material on file. I got an email address out of it, so I guess it's worth it. There's really no need to worry. All they can say is no.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Perry Nium said:
Winterlight's right. If it says "no unsolicited", just ring them up and ask nicely. There's a lot to be said for being nice. The trouble is, so many creatives are such insufferable wankers.
Be nice!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Winterlight said:
I always get a little nervous when I ring up prod co's. Is that normal?!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
23! Thats me in 18 days 
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: ajp29 @ March 1, 2008, 9:49 PM23! Thats me in 18 days
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Big up 23!
23! Yeah!!!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, hotzappa11 said:
I lost contact with a producer at a big production company sometime at the end of last year. The last time I sent her an e-mail was Janurary 31st. I really should try again. She was really good with feedback when I sent her stuff before.
It's just hard getting in contact with producers. Does anyone know any tricks?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: hotzappa11 @ March 1, 2008, 11:03 PMI lost contact with a producer at a big production company sometime at the end of last year. The last time I sent her an e-mail was Janurary 31st. I really should try again. She was really good with feedback when I sent her stuff before.
It's just hard getting in contact with producers. Does anyone know any tricks?
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Find them, write to them.
If it's a good script, they'll take an interest.
Good luck!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, garyd said:
Seefacts,
You bastard!!
Sorry, Sorry, Sorry!
I mean...
You YOUNG bastard!!!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, hotzappa11 said:
By the way, and I'm only asking because I can't be bothered to look back, ha, how long did it take to get a reply from when you first sent material off? Cheers.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ContainsNuts said:
Hey, congrats Seefacts - good luck with that!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: hotzappa11 @ March 2, 2008, 11:48 AMBy the way, and I'm only asking because I can't be bothered to look back, ha, how long did it take to get a reply from when you first sent material off? Cheers.
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About a month at first - I wrote, he emailed back.
At first I was told he had a full diary until 08. 08 came round, I emailed him chancing my arm, and it paid off.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, garyd said:
PS.
Hope it makes it to the screen.
Oh were I young again!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
Congrats, Seefacts. Well done. This is brilliant to read. Obviously, it's great for you personally, but also it gives me, and I’m sure the others on here, some hope too. I hope it all goes well for you!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: earman2009 @ March 3, 2008, 1:18 PMCongrats, Seefacts. Well done. This is brilliant to read. Obviously, it's great for you personally, but also it gives me, and I’m sure the others on here, some hope too. I hope it all goes well for you!
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Thank you.
My fate rests with the BBC now. Lets hope they like it. Hopefully with producer and company backing, they might take an interest.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, SlagA said:
Top stuff, only just catching up since my abscence. I think someone said it best earlier on. You can still wish someone well while feeling a mild pang of jealousy - it proves you have the drive to want to achieve something for yourself too.
Keep us informed.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: SlagA @ March 3, 2008, 7:30 PMTop stuff, only just catching up since my abscence. I think someone said it best earlier on. You can still wish someone well while feeling a mild pang of jealousy - it proves you have the drive to want to achieve something for yourself too.
Keep us informed.
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Thanks!
I've currently got a mild pang of 'don't fuck it up, you moron!'
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ContainsNuts said:
How long did it take you write this gem?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, garyd said:
Quote: Seefacts @ March 3, 2008, 7:38 PMThanks!
I've currently got a mild pang of 'don't fuck it up, you moron!'
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I shouldn't worry too much.
After all, it was you doing what you do that has got you where you're at currently.
Mind you, I can only imagine the knots the old (sorry, young!) stomach must be in!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ContainsNuts said:
I tell you what, its good going for 23. Plenty of time to improve if needed.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: ContainsNuts @ March 3, 2008, 8:38 PMHow long did it take you write this gem?
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A few weeks of planning, then about 4 months of writing and re-writing.
Longer than normal, but then it weighed in at over 100 pages and I re-planned and wrote most of the plot again from scratch so that's why.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ContainsNuts said:
Quote: Seefacts @ March 3, 2008, 9:17 PMA few weeks of planning, then about 4 months of writing and re-writing.
Longer than normal, but then it weighed in at over 100 pages and I re-planned and wrote most of the plot again from scratch so that's why.
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I take it you were working full-time on another job as well? Longer than normal? My normal is currently a lot longer than that!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: ContainsNuts @ March 3, 2008, 9:21 PMI take it you were working full-time on another job as well? Longer than normal? My normal is currently a lot longer than that!
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Well, I suppose it was 4 months of just doing it in the evenings not constant work, if that's what you mean.
I can write a pilot, if all goes well, in about a week but this one spiralled as I had loads of plot ideas and couldn't squeeze them all. Though it means episode 2 will take shape well.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, SlagA said:
Yep, I tend to write within a week too.
I was once given two weeks to write a 90 minute screenplay, planning and writing but that's not the norm.
Strictly for a sitcom pilot: Planning 2 months / writing 1 week / editing 2 weeks is about my normal turnaround. Other episodes fall into place quicker because the work was done in the planning stage.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
I'd like to know how well I'd do with a proper 'do or die' deadline.
I reckon I could have a good near final draft done in a month easily. Maybe less.
Incidentally I'm getting sick of this bloody pilot now, I'm editing it at the moment.
I edited it, then the producer cut it down, then I re-edited his edit.
I just want to write some more episodes now!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ContainsNuts said:
Quote: SlagA @ March 3, 2008, 9:58 PMYep, I tend to write within a week too.
I was once given two weeks to write a 90 minute screenplay, planning and writing but that's not the norm.
Strictly for a sitcom pilot: Planning 2 months / writing 1 week / editing 2 weeks is about my normal turnaround. Other episodes fall into place quicker because the work was done in the planning stage.
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Just out of interest, during this period what percentage of that time are you working on the script? I took months to plan a pilot because I was working 9am-6pm everyday and doing an hour every other day and then full weekends.
Then I read a book and replanned everything again!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: ContainsNuts @ March 3, 2008, 10:04 PMJust out of interest, during this period what percentage of that time are you working on the script? I took months to plan a pilot because I was working 9am-6pm everyday and doing an hour every other day and then full weekends.
Then I read a book and replanned everything again!
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Er, the planning was an hour or a day throughout December 06.
That's from nothing to characters, set ups, jobs, age, relationships, and a basic plot.
Then I started writing - again a few hours a day (well, evening as I have a full time job) from Jan to April - with that came extensive replanning as I essentially wrote the first two episodes. So those 4-5 months yielded two episodes.
In that same December I also planned another sitcom from scratch, and wrote that. So looking back I got 2 pilots planned and written, and a second episode taking shape with loads of material in those 4 months.
Is that productive? Looking back, it seems it.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ContainsNuts said:
I think it is. For example, my pilot idea was a few years ago but i never got round to planning it. Then I did in 2006 and I could only do it at weekends because website designing is just as creative at times and I couldn't manage both.
I then came up with another sitcom idea and a sketch show and found myself drifting between the lot, but progressing more than if I spent all my time on my original pilot. In fact when I was doing my pilot I kept on having ideas for the other stuff and vice-versa.
At the moment I'm writing for a show and doing web shites, then in April I plan to take a couple months off to finish my projects. Boyed by your stories no doubt!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Matthew Stott said:
Quote: SlagA @ March 3, 2008, 9:58 PMYep, I tend to write within a week too.
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I generally find that when Im ready to write it comes out quick too; the last full episode I wrote was completed within two days; just working during work breaks and the evening! Of course it needed a lot of work after that, but the initial episode came out fast.
Its interesting to hear how people spend ages planning things out before starting to write, as I almost never have. Ill generally start writing as soon as the basic show idea forms in my head.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Marc Blake said:
IN seefacts meeting story, he mentions Media as a No-no. May I heartily endorse this and add a personal thought. I am getting a huge number of scripts about celebrities on the slide or trying to make a comeback. This is the biggest cliche: I know how the thinking goes. They are losers, they are flawed, they will be interesting. The trouble is; they aren't. Once you are off the ride, it's over. No one really CARES about minor celebs, and in this media saturated world I really can't see this playing well with broadcasters. NUff said.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
Thanks Marc for the advice!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, bushbaby said:
Seefacts, how many pages do you reckon for a sitcom...30 mins
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: bushbaby @ March 4, 2008, 12:44 PMSeefacts, how many pages do you reckon for a sitcom...30 mins
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Well if it's in the more American style (dialogue in the middle, actions go all across the page, in Courier New font) about 35 - 40.
The more English BBC style it's about 40 - 45. No more than 50.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, bushbaby said:
Oh, right thanks
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Tim Walker said:
Quote: Seefacts @ March 4, 2008, 12:58 PMWell if it's in the more American style (dialogue in the middle, actions go all across the page, in Courier New font) about 35 - 40.
The more English BBC style it's about 40 - 45. No more than 50.
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Mine tend to come in around 50-55 pages, in Final Draft BBC Sitcom format. Then again, in any pilot script I always include one scene that could easily be sacrificed for the sake of time. I like to put in a scene that is intended for the reader, usually one that explains something about my main character(s) more, but isn't crucial to the plot and could ultimately be dumped.
I always do my own table read prior to completion and don't just rely on page count. My new script opens with a monologue which only takes up 2 pages, but would probably take over 3 mins screen time. I've other scenes which take up a number of pages but are fast-paced dialogue and read less for screen time.
I take on board the principle that it's a good idea to be able to show you can tell your story within the 30 mins, but I wouldn't be too masochistic about it. Your first draft will never be the final draft anyway.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Badge said:
There's no substitute for the "read aloud". I've been using the Scriptsmart screenplay format which approximates to 1 min per page, but as others have said some pages can be quick and snappy but others are slower. Number of pages depends on a lot of things, so the best thiing is to read it out loud and time it. It's only fair to the person you are sending it to.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Winterlight said:
Don't know if this has been asked or mentioned, but:
Seefacts, what did you wear to the meeting?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Antony Wheeler said:
Quote: Winterlight @ March 25, 2008, 10:10 AMDon't know if this has been asked or mentioned, but:
Seefacts, what did you wear to the meeting?
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A grin, probably.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: Winterlight @ March 25, 2008, 10:10 AMDon't know if this has been asked or mentioned, but:
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I went totally naked.
No, I wore chords, a shirt and a jumper. But topped it off with my ace bright blue trainers. And a retro man bag.
I wanted to wear something totally casual like a t-shirt - which is how I REALLY dress most of the time, but my girlfriend said I'd look like a little boy. "I AM a little boy" I would protest. I basically dressed how I would if I was going out - one notch above in smartness compared to my normal attire. But it really doesn't matter, within reason.
Quote: Antony Wheeler @ March 25, 2008, 10:22 AMA grin, probably.
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Yeah, and that.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, JohnnyD said:
But what did you drink?
At a recent meeting with a Production Company, I copied the Chief Executive and asked for a coffee, when I really wanted the red wine on offer.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: JohnnyD @ March 25, 2008, 12:29 PMBut what did you drink?
At a recent meeting with a Production Company, I copied the Chief Executive and asked for a coffee, when I really wanted the red wine on offer.
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I'd JUST had a coffee from the near by Starbucks so my drinking needs were fulfilled.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Antrax said:
Just read this. Congrats and all the best.
Fingers crossed for you. I was in a similar position a couple of years back and it all came to naught, so it would be good to see somebody else break through a bit, give me renewed hope!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
It's lead to me being on the verge of having some sketches go on the telly, I'll find out more soon.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Antony Wheeler said:
Best of luck, mate.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Bussell said:
Quote: Seefacts @ March 25, 2008, 1:31 PMIt's lead to me being on the verge of having some sketches go on the telly, I'll find out more soon.
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Exciting stuff. Hope it works out for you.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: David Bussell @ March 25, 2008, 1:57 PMExciting stuff. Hope it works out for you.
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Thanks. I'm just waiting for my confirmation call, but I've more or less had it confirmed from the producer.
Looking forward to getting paid about 5 pounds.
What IS the rate for sketches - anyone know?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, swerytd said:
Dunno for TV. 'BBC rate minuteage' was about £55 per broadcast minute for the radio from an independent production company, but then I got £33 per minute for BBC7 (not sure if that's cos it's less for digital).
I got told by a head of comedy that for sitcom it's about £7500 per hour of comedy, which I guess works out at about £125 per minute-ish. Sounds about right to me but I can't confirm, and I'm assuming sketch/sitcom rates are similar.
Dan
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Winterlight said:
I was told by a sketch-writer that it's around a couple of hundred pounds per sketch.
Enough to buy some more 'going out cords'.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
All a writer needs!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: Winterlight @ March 25, 2008, 5:47 PM
Enough to buy some more 'going out cords'.
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I'm a cord-wearer - is that soooooo bad? I'm a bit like the Olympic torch - I never go out. So I do have clothes which I refer have 'going out' a prefix.
If you want to know what I look like think that pixel avatar with shorter hair, brown chords, blue trainers and some kind of indie t-shirt. Facially I'm a cross between Matthew Corbett and Simon Pegg.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
Aw.
Cords are good.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Winterlight said:
I don't think I've had any since I was little.
They're something I'd like to try one day.
I saw a band once called 'The Bandits' who weren't very good, but their singer looked really cool in cream cords and red trainers.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
Quote: zooo @ March 25, 2008, 5:53 PMAw.
Cords are good.
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You always have to search for the lost ones.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: Seefacts @ March 25, 2008, 5:51 PMI'm a cord-wearer - is that soooooo bad? I'm a bit like the Olympic torch - I never go out. So I do have clothes which I refer have 'going out' a prefix.
If you want to know what I look like think that pixel avatar with shorter hair, brown chords, blue trainers and some kind of indie t-shirt. Facially I'm a cross between Matthew Corbett and Simon Pegg.
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There's a bit in there that's not in English.
"So I do have clothes which have 'going out' as a prefix." - that's better.
Quote: zooo @ March 25, 2008, 5:53 PMAw.
Cords are good.
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Yes, they are.
They'd look better on your bedroom floor though - Ha, eh lads?
Eh, lads?
Lads? . . .
Quote: David Chapman @ March 25, 2008, 5:56 PMYou always have to search for the lost ones.
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I'm certainly a major chord wearer.
Sometimes minor ones, but they're a bit more melancholy.
Quote: Winterlight @ March 25, 2008, 5:56 PMI don't think I've had any since I was little.
They're something I'd like to try one day.
I saw a band once called 'The Bandits' who weren't very good, but their singer looked really cool in cream cords and red trainers.
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Well, I too am cool, so that's sorted.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Winterlight said:
Power chord dresser?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Winterlight said:
Hello, I'm being nosey again.
What style are the sketches you should be getting on telly?
Traditional? Surreal? Catchphrase based? Recurring character based? Quick? Long?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Bussell said:
Quote: Winterlight @ March 27, 2008, 1:35 PMQuick? Long?
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Hard?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: Winterlight @ March 27, 2008, 1:35 PMHello, I'm being nosey again.
What style are the sketches you should be getting on telly?
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Standard sketches about everyday life.
Though a recurring character is involved.
Big Train is a Big influence on my sketches. Probably my only sketch influence.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ian_w said:
I wish you would post some of your work, Seefacts.
Don't you have anything you are prepared to sacrafice on the alter of critique? It would be time-stamped, you know!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: ian_w @ March 27, 2008, 2:22 PMI wish you would post some of your work, Seefacts.
Don't you have anything you are prepared to sacrafice on the alter of critique? It would be time-stamped, you know!
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Sorry, I've no plans to post anything - though it's good people are interested!
Of course, what this means is you might all think I'm a liar. I'm actually not a writer - I'm a trainee vet.
If it all works out and the sketches DO go out then you can critique them!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Winterlight said:
Quote: Seefacts @ March 27, 2008, 2:09 PMStandard sketches about everyday life.
Big Train is a Big influence on my sketches. Probably my only sketch influence.
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Weren't Big Train sketches always a subversion of standard, everyday life? Rather than just about standard everyday life?
Or is that what you meant?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: Winterlight @ March 27, 2008, 2:53 PMWeren't Big Train sketches always a subversion of standard, everyday life? Rather than just about standard everyday life?
Or is that what you meant?
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Errrr . . .
The sketches are left-field takes on everyday life, but not as short or naturalistic as Big Train.
Though it all depends on the brief from the show of course. I wrote about everyday life as that's what was needed.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Winterlight said:
Ah ok. I look forward to seeing them.
Seeing as they'll be on TV, I guess they'll need critiquing in the 'Other British Comedy' subforum on here.
I wonder if that's a first for a member on this site...
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Bussell said:
Quote: Seefacts @ March 27, 2008, 2:25 PMSorry, I've no plans to post anything - though it's good people are interested!
Of course, what this means is you might all think I'm a liar. I'm actually not a writer - I'm a trainee vet.
If it all works out and the sketches DO go out then you can critique them!
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Do you mind me asking what your reasons are for not posting? Is it that you're worried they'll be stolen or that you simply see no value in an outside opinion?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: David Bussell @ March 27, 2008, 3:06 PMDo you mind me asking what your reasons are for not posting? Is it that you're worried they'll be stolen or that you simply see no value in an outside opinion?
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Errrrrr, stolen isn't a problem in terms the contributing members, but lurkers - who knows?
Also any work I have which I think is good I will want to use eventually, so if I put lots up on here for critiquing it'd potentially devalue it if I was to use it, as it's been in the public domain already. Albeit on a small scale.
And all my most important pieces have been critiqued by producers. My three pilots have all drummed up interest and comments. I've developed all three with the guidance of prods or script editors. So I've done and learnt enough in that process. So while you mention seeing 'no value', that's not a slight on the people here it's more that I've had it critiqued already.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Bussell said:
Quote: Seefacts @ March 27, 2008, 3:12 PMErrrrrr, stolen isn't a problem in terms the contributing members, but lurkers - who knows?
Also any work I have which I think is good I will want to use eventually, so if I put lots up on here for critiquing it'd potentially devalue it if I was to use it, as it's been in the public domain already. Albeit on a small scale.
And all my most important pieces have been critiqued by producers. My three pilots have all drummed up interest and comments. I've developed all three with the guidance of prods or script editors. So I've done and learnt enough in that process. So while you mention seeing 'no value', that's not a slight on the people here it's more that I've had it critiqued already.
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Don't get me wrong, I see your point. Personally, I'm not so self assured as to be able to give my work to producers sight unseen. Clearly you're doing this business though.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Lee Brown said:
Wow well done Seefacts.
May I ask how you did it, did you go through an agent first or did you send around productions companies?
Did you send that important first spec letter asking if they wanted to see your script or did you just send the script?
Well done again I hope it becomes the success you want.
Lee
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: David Bussell @ March 27, 2008, 3:23 PMDon't get me wrong, I see your point. Personally, I'm not so self assured as to be able to give my work to producers sight unseen. Clearly you're doing this business though.
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That said, ALL my writing confidence stems from a script writer who really liked my work - I owe him a lot for getting involved and from that I got the confidence to push on with new work.
That and I've got a big ego, obviously
Quote: Lee Brown @ March 27, 2008, 8:10 PMWow well done Seefacts.
May I ask how you did it, did you go through an agent first or did you send around productions companies?
Did you send that important first spec letter asking if they wanted to see your script or did you just send the script?
Well done again I hope it becomes the success you want.
Lee
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I sent it straight to a producer who happened to have a very good relationship with a big prod co.
It went to a few places at the same time, but he was the one who took a chance.
I wrote a letter with it saying who I was and what I was doing but nothing else. I basically said 'Could you find time to read it', luckily he said yes.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Bussell said:
Quote: Seefacts @ March 27, 2008, 9:46 PMThat said, ALL my writing confidence stems from a script writer who really liked my work - I owe him a lot for getting involved and from that I got the confidence to push on with new work.
That and I've got a big ego, obviously
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I know what you mean. I have a mentor of sorts, a guy I know from back in the day when I used to run a video store. He wrote a couple of cult horror movies in the 70's and 80's and he digs the shit out of my stuff. Seeing him is always a treat for the ego.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: David Bussell @ March 27, 2008, 9:50 PMI know what you mean. I have a mentor of sorts, a guy I know from back in the day when I used to run a video store. He wrote a couple of cult horror movies in the 70's and 80's and he digs the shit out of my stuff. Seeing him is always a treat for the ego.
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Yeah, it's amazing what a confidence boost can do.
And here's one for you - I noticed you were the purveyor of the brilliant 'Paris' sketch a while ago - which is easily my favourite sketch I've seen on here. Ever.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Stevie said:
Thanks for sharing your experience, thats really great
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David H said:
Only just seen this thread. A belated 'good on you' from me too, seefacts. It really is terrific to see someone from the site have their work attract interest. Obviously still a long way to go, but it shows it was worth all the hard work.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
Quote: David H @ March 27, 2008, 11:05 PMOnly just seen this thread. A belated 'good on you' from me too, seefacts. It really is terrific to see someone from the site have their work attract interest. Obviously still a long way to go, but it shows it was worth all the hard work.
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Yeah, hard work is certainly an apt phrase.
4 years of persevering, writing, sending off, waiting, chancing my arm, getting told I wasn't funny or that I was unprofessional - it looks like it's slowly paying off.
I found out my potential fee today too - 140 quid per transmitted minute, plus 10% for the C4 website broadcast and C4+1 so lets hope they make my sketches really lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng to squeeze out the cash!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Badge said:
Quote: Seefacts @ March 27, 2008, 11:27 PMYeah, hard work is certainly an apt phrase.
4 years of persevering, writing, sending off, waiting, chancing my arm, getting told I wasn't funny or that I was unprofessional - it looks like it's slowly paying off.
I found out my potential fee today too - 140 quid per transmitted minute, plus 10% for the C4 website broadcast and C4+1 so lets hope they make my sketches really lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng to squeeze out the cash!
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I saw on the Frost Report BBC4 thing this week that Frost claimed an early Cleese sketch was much longer than it really was just so he could get a bigger cheque on their hourly rates! Hopefully the producer will wangle the same for you (but not at 1960s levels).
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, catskillz said:
Quote: swerytd @ March 25, 2008, 2:56 PMDunno for TV. 'BBC rate minuteage' was about £55 per broadcast minute for the radio from an independent production company, but then I got £33 per minute for BBC7 (not sure if that's cos it's less for digital).
I got told by a head of comedy that for sitcom it's about £7500 per hour of comedy, which I guess works out at about £125 per minute-ish. Sounds about right to me but I can't confirm, and I'm assuming sketch/sitcom rates are similar.
Dan
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What a fucking rip-off!!!! Anyone know what else you can make, if you have a really big Office-style smash, i.e. if it got shown in loads of other countries, or was remade in other countries, and, of course, if it sold a shitload of DVDs? I dont care how vulgar this sounds, I'm out to make some fucking MONEEEEEEEEEY from this shit!!!!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Lee Brown said:
Thank you for sharing Seefacts, good look with it all and keep us posted
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Bussell said:
Quote: Seefacts @ March 27, 2008, 9:55 PMYeah, it's amazing what a confidence boost can do.
And here's one for you - I noticed you were the purveyor of the brilliant 'Paris' sketch a while ago - which is easily my favourite sketch I've seen on here. Ever.
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Thank you very much indeed. That's the only sketch I ever shot that my mum and dad dad like. I'm reshooting it on hi-def for my showreel soon.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, swerytd said:
Quote: catskillz @ March 28, 2008, 1:58 AMWhat a fucking rip-off!!!! Anyone know what else you can make, if you have a really big Office-style smash, i.e. if it got shown in loads of other countries, or was remade in other countries, and, of course, if it sold a shitload of DVDs? I dont care how vulgar this sounds, I'm out to make some fucking MONEEEEEEEEEY from this shit!!!!
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According to the contract, what I got was for something like two broadcasts and the rights to have it on iPlayer for a week afterwards. Repeat fees are paid if and when it's repeated beyond that. I think there was something in the (very) long and (very) boring contract about getting more if it's broadcast (promoted?!) to Radio 4.
I'm not sure how being 'commissioned' differs though. I assume if you are you get a salary of sorts (or at least contract) so that you can buy beans to live off of...
Dan
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Jude said:
Well done Seefacts and good luck with everything.
It's great to hear how it's going.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Seefacts said:
I've been invited to the set in a few weeks, which is incredible.
I'm going to hopefully get down there and see how it all works.