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The IT Crowd 2.0
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Ben Ripley said:
OK, so I'm a bit behind the times, but I have only today learned that series 2 begins Friday 24th August!
Yeah, I know series one wasn't everybody's cup of tea, but I absolutely loved it and my friends and I often put on the DVD when we need a damn good hearty laugh!
In the words of Jen as she implored to Daniel the security guard re: chocolate on head... "It's not shit!"
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, chipolata said:
Why did this second series take so long to reach us? It seems ages since the first series went out, and as much as I enjoy it, I can't imagine it took long to write the scripts or hone the performances, especially that woman from the Malteaser adds, who's acting style consists mainly of shouting in a vaguely silly silly voice. And the Irish guy, he shouts a lot too. While the black guy just does this stilted awkward thing so I can never work out whether he's playing a stiff person, or just a lousy actor... I am glad to have it back, though.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
General delays in getting into the studio, I gather.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, chipolata said:
The reason I mention the delay is often when second series take a long time to reach us, they've lost some of the fizz. Or are perceived to have lost some of their fizz, by critics eager to stick the knife in. Famously, the second series of Fawlty Towers took five years to reach us, and the critics (bizarrely) gave it a drubbing. John Cleese was quite put out at the time. Likewise, the second series of I'm Alan Partridge took five years to reach us and similiarly recieved a drubbing. Armando Iannucci was quite put out at the time.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Yeah, but the critics are more often than not full of bullshit. If they pan something, it's almost guaranteed to be a public hit.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
Well I can't wait for it, I think it's great.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
I'm looking forward to it too. I think part of the delay was because Graham started writing the second series with his old writing partner Arthur Mathews, but for some reason it didn't work out, so he had to go back and write it by himself. At least that's what I read somewhere (Christ knows where that was though). Either way, at least it's coming back now. 
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
So far, I'm not sure if it's bad or good.
I'm pretty sure that that's the New Wimbledon Theatre though.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Avril said:
I agree with you Aaron...I'm just hoping it grows on me like the last series did
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, hotzappa11 said:
I LOL nearly the whole way through it. The fast half was often slow but the second half gradually became better. Jen's reaction when she saw Moss behind the bar was pitch perfect timing. Also when Roy is getting lifted into the van.
The preview of next weeks good and i liked the joke they showed.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Well, hmm, yes. Didn't start off too well, and Noel Fielding is embarassing, but I thought that it was mostly pretty good at the end. Enough laugh-out-loud moments to keep me entertained (and it's rare something actually makes me literally laugh out loud these days). Still hampered by a poor start though.
Yeah, ditto pretty much EXACTLY what hz said.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
Yeah I'll echo HZ. (echo, echo, echo)
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Stylo said:
I loved it. Roll on next Friday 
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
The characters are likable and it's silly enough to be fun. Plus it has loads of great cameos in it.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
It was ace! Moss is even better this series.
And I was in that theatre a few weeks ago!
What japes.
And Ash Atalla at the end! 
Excellent.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mark said:
Yeah it was alright wasn't it. Anyone else spot the cameo from Ash Atalla? EDIT: Ah, I see Zooo did too!
I've been lucky enough to see the second episode and can say that if you liked tonight's you'll definitely like next week too.
Like this week, the first half of the episode starts slowly but in the second half Graham Linehan really heats things up. I won't give away too much of the plot but basically Denholm (Chris Morris) commits suicide which leads to a funeral... which is where things start to get fun. We're also finally introduced to the new boss in the episode, Denholm's lady-bothering son Douglas (Matt Berry firing on all cylinders).
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: zooo @ August 25, 2007, 12:13 AMAnd I was in that theatre a few weeks ago!
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No idea what this "japes" thing is all about, but New Wimbledon, yes?
Re Ash Atalla, thought that was him. Not seen him around the office recently though.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
I had japes in the New Wimbledon!
But they didn't involve wheelchairs.
I cannot wait for Matt Berry to start. I've missed him off my telly. (Even though he was only on it last night in Saxondale).
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
*Googles 'japes'*
Riiiight.
(Anyone else spot that Linehan directed the show?)
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
That was so much funnier than the first series. Look forward to next week's episode! Ash's cameo at the end was great.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Quote: chipolata @ August 17, 2007, 10:01 AMWhy did this second series take so long to reach us? It seems ages since the first series went out, and as much as I enjoy it, I can't imagine it took long to write the scripts or hone the performances, especially that woman from the Malteaser adds, who's acting style consists mainly of shouting in a vaguely silly silly voice. And the Irish guy, he shouts a lot too. While the black guy just does this stilted awkward thing so I can never work out whether he's playing a stiff person, or just a lousy actor... I am glad to have it back, though.
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Chip, sorry mate, but this is why you ain't on the telly! (Don't take that comment too seriously
).Katherine Parkinson is a truly brilliant comedy actress and the next big thing. Also the scripts of this show are super tight. The first episode, of the last series was available as a text file somewhere, and is actually a model of how to write a good comedy script.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: Godot Taxis @ August 25, 2007, 2:33 AMKatherine Parkinson is a truly brilliant comedy actress and the next big thing.
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I really have to agree with Chipolata on that one. I found her acting (in the last series - not sure about this yet) to be laboured, two-tone, unbelievable, and generally pretty weak.
Maybe you fancy her. WOOoooo! Godot fancies Katherine, Godot fancies Katherine! *skips around chanting it*
...Sorry. I'll stop now.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David H said:
I think this shows how difficult it is to write a good sitcom. Because this is an experienced writer who has obviously spent months writing it and it is, to my mind, a throwaway comedy. In that, it's watchable but then you'd throw it away.
As has been said, the start to this was soporific. A novice writer's script would have been winging its way back to them if they'd have written the first five minutes.
And I'm still not sure there was a plot. There was the is he/isn't he? then the other two things just seemed to happen as an afterthought and 'we'll take it from there'.
I'm just glad there was no obligatory gay plot
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Scatterbrained Floozy said:
I really enjoyed it this time round! maybe it was cos I was in a good mood; or because it was growing on me; or because, dare I say it? its getting better?
I didnt think it was that funny and then Moss came through, as well as the wheelchair bit.
Very annoyed that Noel Fielding is using a stupid voice in though. I think it would be much funnier and better if he just spoke like he usually does
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Jack Massey said:
I thought it was absolutely fantastic. Definetly the best sitcom of recent times. The part when that man pushed the disabled man out of the wheel chair was hilarious. Roll on next Friday.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
The gay theater dude, was Nathan Barley, yeah?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Scatterbrained Floozy said:
yep!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Walker said:
I'm annoyed they didn't continue last series' "To Be Continued" ending, i thought this first episode was very, very good. The writing is noticeably a lot stronger, bar the first five minutes or so, and i thought the acting was done better. All in all, everything has improved. I look forward to next week.
I also didn't like Katherin's performance in the first series, but i think she did good in this first episode.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: Leevil @ August 25, 2007, 11:59 AMThe gay theater dude, was Nathan Barley, yeah?
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Nicholas Burns. I'll always remember him from the sublime Absolute Power.
*theatre
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
I looove Katherine.
I can see why she could annoy, but she doesn't annoy me.
Because I looove her.*
As I said.
*Not like that.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
Quote: zooo @ August 25, 2007, 1:44 PM*Not like that.
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A little bit like that?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Haha, I was about to say...
(Dirty, filthy Lee.)
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Martin Holmes said:
Quote: Aaron @ August 25, 2007, 7:09 AMI really have to agree with Chipolata on that one. I found her acting (in the last series - not sure about this yet) to be laboured, two-tone, unbelievable, and generally pretty weak.
Maybe you fancy her. WOOoooo! Godot fancies Katherine, Godot fancies Katherine! *skips around chanting it*
...Sorry. I'll stop now.
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I also agree, Katherine Parkinson is a horrible actress, she wasn't as bad last night as she was in the first series where she practically shouted her way through every episode.
Last nights episode was crap in the first half and good in the second half.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Ben Ripley said:
I watched the latest episode with my friends Louise and Adam (who both love the show) and we were all falling about laughing! We love non-p.c. stuff and the fact that nothing was sacred was an absolute joy.
For those who aren't aware, I'm a gay guy who hates all the pretentious paraphernalia which gay guys are supposed to love, so I found 'Gay - a gay musical' particularly funny! (Like 'Lease' in 'Team America'.)
And, for the record, I don't hate Katherine Parkinson, I think she's fab! (ooh, was that too gay saying that? Damn!!)
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
She is indeed fab. Even in that advert.
I loved Roy's 'disabled' voice!
I think this series is better, but I already loved it.
I didn't notice that graham Linehan had directed this one, but he was ace. I loved the timing of Roy being raised and lowered on the wheelchair van.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
Did anyone notice that the lighting was awful? Were the light people on strike that week. I thought it was OK, the disabled joke went on for way too long (wouldn't have happened under the directors of Father Ted) but when Jen turned around and Moz was there, that was brilliant.
P.S. Linehan directed the entire first series.
P.P.S. I'm gonna sue him for knicking my idea of doing 'Gay' the musical
P.P.P.S. Yeah the woman really can't act can she. She has two looks, hiding the fact she is irritated and her irritated shouty face. I think she'll be the next big thing only if she starts binge eating
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
Quote: ajp29 @ August 25, 2007, 2:32 PMP.S. Linehan directed the entire first series.
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I didn't know that.
But then I don't know much.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Martin Holmes said:
The best part was definitely the reveal of Moss behind the bar. The worst part was the annoying pitch of the studio laughter, it didn't sound right.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
They applauded at the end, do they normally do that? It sounded like a cheesy 70's sitcom.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Ha, ha you guys are swelling my ego. Of course you don't think Katherine Parkinson can act!
Katherine Parkinson is going to be massive. You heard it here first.
I don't fancy her, I fancy Konnie Huq.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
...Dara?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Yes. Everyone watches MTW don't they?
Actually I do fancy katherine parkinson.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
The whole shouting thing was noted by Graham and the cast on the commentary and they said they would address that on the next series. It's only been one episode so far, but I did notice a less shouty performance yesterday. Katherine was a little annoying last series, but I have faith for this one.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, hotzappa11 said:
There's a post on Graham's blog about laughter and that.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Not another one!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: ajp29 @ August 25, 2007, 2:32 PMP.S. Linehan directed the entire first series.
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Indeed he did. And was present at the recordings, and very polite and nervous of the show's success.
Re the shouting, the first thing I thought, first scene they recorded, was basically "CHRIST! Shut up, woman!". (The episode, although the first one recorded, turned into ep 3. With the blind date scene in the restaurant. Watch it, and you'll see a toned down version of what actually happened at Teddington that fateful night.)
Quote: hotzappa11 @ August 25, 2007, 11:48 PMThere's a post on Graham's blog about laughter and that.
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Link, purlease?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Wow, you mean he directed the first series AND he was present at the recordings?
Sorry, Aaron, but you wouldn't let anyone else get away with that.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Liam said:
I thought it was brilliant, i was laughing most of the way through. If the season keeps up at the same standard it really will be better than the first.
At first when Roy started doing the disabled thing I thought yeh i know what will happen, Moss will blow open his lie in typical fashion, but the fact that that didnt happen was a nice suprise
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: Godot Taxis @ August 26, 2007, 12:39 AMWow, you mean he directed the first series AND he was present at the recordings?
Sorry, Aaron, but you wouldn't let anyone else get away with that.
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Many 'directors' will delegate the day-to-day direction to assistants and others lower down the ladder, whilst still maintaining overall responsibility (and credit) for the whole show. And they certainly don't come onto the studio floor to talk to the audience.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
Was he wearing a cardigan?
I always imagine him wearing a cardigan...
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
I was thinking Graham Linehan was the other dude, the blonde one!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: zooo @ August 26, 2007, 12:53 PMWas he wearing a cardigan?
I always imagine him wearing a cardigan...
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Jeans and an oversized t-shirt, if I remember rightly.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, hotzappa11 said:
Quote: Aaron @ August 26, 2007, 12:20 AMLink, purlease?
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Here you go....
http://whythatsdelightful.wordpress.com/2007/08/24/the-it-crowd-series-2-begins-tonight/#comments
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
A lotof people, Graham included, seem to make quite a fuss about the laughter track. I've seen it as a problem at all.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
I didn't notice it.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Quote: Aaron @ August 26, 2007, 9:16 AMMany 'directors' will delegate the day-to-day direction to assistants and others lower down the ladder, whilst still maintaining overall responsibility (and credit) for the whole show. And they certainly don't come onto the studio floor to talk to the audience.
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Er... no. The person who 'directs' people on the set is the floor manager or assistant director. He's not doing the director a favour, that's his job. The director isn't on set during recording, he's in the booth cueing the cameras. Sorry to pick you up, but you always pick me up.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: Godot Taxis @ August 26, 2007, 6:41 PMEr... no. The person who 'directs' people on the set is the floor manager or assistant director. He's not doing the director a favour, that's his job. The director isn't on set during recording, he's in the booth cueing the cameras. Sorry to pick you up, but you always pick me up.
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Congratulations. You've just graduated from the University of the Bleedin' Obvious!
(In other words, that's not what I meant at all.)
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Perhaps you could draw a picture of what you meant, since you can't explain it using words.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
I love this show. I was a late arrival - a bit like I was with Father Ted and you can see the similarities.
Incidentally I saw Al Murray at Wimbledon Theatre last year. (Why "New" - it's thew same building as the old one!)
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: Godot Taxis @ August 27, 2007, 12:39 AMPerhaps you could draw a picture of what you meant, since you can't explain it using words.
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I'm not sure how I could make it any clearer. Go back and re-read my post. I made no mention of the floor manager, or his/her duties. Not my problem if you misunderstand what's been posted by others.
But in all honesty, I really don't care, and I'm not going to waste any more time on this discussion.
So in summary: The IT Crowd S02E01. Good.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
And the most anal posters of the year award 2007 goes to Aaron and Godot. Congratulations 
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
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Surely Charley?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Boom boom.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Paul W said:
Omg my 600th post.
And I missed the first episode of series 2... anyone have a website I can watch it!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
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Busy week for me, first I graduated from the University of the Bleedin' Obvious, now I've won an award for being an arse. But I don't like sharing things, so Aaron can have it.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Quote: Aaron @ August 27, 2007, 10:39 AMI'm not sure how I could make it any clearer. Go back and re-read my post. I made no mention of the floor manager, or his/her duties. Not my problem if you misunderstand what's been posted by others.
But in all honesty, I really don't care, and I'm not going to waste any more time on this discussion.
So in summary: The IT Crowd S02E01. Good.
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I re-read your post as you suggested.
You said that Linehan directed the series AND was present at the recordings, as if it was possible to do either and not both. They are the same thing.
You said "Many 'directors' will delegate the day-to-day direction to assistants and others lower down the ladder, whilst still maintaining overall responsibility (and credit) for the whole show."
I assumed by 'day-to-day direction' you meant the local direction of the actors on the set by the floor manager/assistant director. This is also not properly delegation as he/she is under instruction from the director in the gallery, but the gist seems clear: that many directors are happy to let assistants do the work on the floor - again, indicating that you do not understand exactly what the director's role is.
I agree that it is very pedantic to argue in this way, and have only done so because you have been very anal in the past regarding my posts.
But it seems that when it comes to being anal, you like to 'give' but you won't 'take'.
(That line taken from 'Gay- the Musical' by ajp29)
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
Quote: Godot Taxis @ August 27, 2007, 5:36 PMBusy week for me, first I graduated from the University of the Bleedin' Obvious, now I've won an award for being an arse. But I don't like sharing things, so Aaron can have it.
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On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mark said:
Quote: paul watson @ August 27, 2007, 3:40 PMI missed the first episode of series 2... anyone have a website I can watch it!
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It's a free download on 4oD
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Jason Kindred said:
I really enjoyed the first episode. Sure, it was a bit laboured to start with, and the gay musical wasn't nearly as funny as it could have been (See The Simpsons Planet of the Apes Musical for how to do it right), but once the pay offs started coming in the second half, I laughed a lot.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, johnny roulette said:
i've not read every post on this thread so i apologise if this has already been covered...
i really liked episode 1. it was the first tv comedy to make me laugh out loud for a long time. so, i'm not criticising it, but...
did anyone else notice that it just seemed to be father ted under a different name? roy was clearly in the ted role - i could just imagine ted having to pretend he was disabled. and moss was clearly dougal - the comedy fool.
also, there was nothing about IT in it. at all. it was more about the characters.
i think these things really helped the show but i strongly suspect that a writer who isn't Mr Linehan might not have got away with them.
good show though.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Frankie Rage said:
The whole idea that anything or anyone related to I.T. could be funny bemuses me...
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
I'm sooo glad there are few IT references in it, they would go straight over my head, 'the off and on again' is about as much as I can handle. I'm glad it's about the characters, that's what makes a great comedy in my books.
Yeah, it is very Father Ted, disguised by the fact that it takes place in a very different stetting, a city, rather then the middle of nowhere on crazy Craggy Island.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Linehan has a lot of credit with me. He would have to televise the worse joke imaginable several times an episode for two episodes in a row for me to even frown. And even then it would probably be only one brow.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
Does anyone know why Graham Lineman wasn't involved in the second or third series of black books? Or the second series of Big Train for that matter? Come to think of it, he co-created the show Hippies, but wasn't involved with the writing. Commitment issues?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: johnny roulette @ August 31, 2007, 3:16 PMalso, there was nothing about IT in it. at all. it was more about the characters.
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In the average Father Ted episode, what was there that was actually about being clergymen, or even particularly religious? It was all about the characters. One utter incompetent, one paralytic, and one undoubtedly well-intentioned, but really really fucking unlucky and put-your-foot-in-it. They were put in positions where people looked up to them, to a certain extent at least, and yet they were useless. Change the setting and it wouldn't lose any comedic value. No?
(Likewise most sitcoms really.)
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
How many people would watch The IT Crowd, if it were completely about computers? Incidentally, how many people do watch The IT Crowd? How may I found out about the viewing figures for last week's episode? I don't expect an answer right now as everyone's watching the second episode that's on now. I'm sky plusing it myself.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
I would. And I do. But missed the start tonight, so will catch it on 4+1. Mark may very well have posted viewing figures for last week. Check our news section. Other than that, Google is probably your best bet.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
Quote: johnny roulette @ August 31, 2007, 3:16 PMalso, there was nothing about IT in it. at all. it was more about the characters.
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Like Green Wing doesn't really have to be in a Hospital. Does it really matter? It's just to laugh at nerds. Are you watching Aaron?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: Aaron @ August 31, 2007, 9:38 PMBut missed the start tonight, so will catch it on 4+1.
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On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mark said:
Quote: earman2009 @ August 31, 2007, 9:33 PMIncidentally, how many people do watch The IT Crowd? How may I found out about the viewing figures for last week's episode?
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2.5 million watched the first episode last Friday which isn't too shaby. That figure doesn't include the repeat or 4oD viewings either. To put it in perspective: last year The IT Crowd double-bill intro managed 1.7 million so it's up on that by quite a bit.
You can get viewing figures via a subscription to BARB, Broadcast Now, MediaGuardian or ViewingFigures.com. MediaGuardian is the only one which doesn't cost a bomb but they only report on some shows.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, hotzappa11 said:
"Oh, no. It'll blow my cock off." haha. I enjoyed tonights. The 2nd half wasn't as good as the 1st half.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
as i said i caught the first series late - on repeats i think but now have to watch it
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
Tonight wasn't great, but I still really enjoy this show. Roll on next week, Matt Berry is great! Although I really liked Chris Morris and was the reason I stuck with the show in the first place.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Winterlight said:
I only watched the first two episodes of it last year and could only think "What on earth is Chris Morris doing in this". Although, after Nathan Barley it's not a surprise....
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David H said:
It's really weak stuff. It seems like it's his first draft. Some of the stuff like the boardroom meeting and him jumping out of the window, the son fighting with the vicar, and the thing with the pen outside the church was all very amateurish and like a first time writer trying to get a joke in. And what that guy's doing in the basement God only knows.
Would they really get changed for the funeral at work liked they seemed to?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
You want realism in a sitcom?
Madness.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Darren Goldsmith said:
I loved the second episode... as I did the first. This is a nice step up from the first series, which I also enjoyed.
La la laa laa la... everything is wonderful... la laa la la.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
Quote: hotzappa11 @ August 31, 2007, 11:12 PM"Oh, no. It'll blow my cock off."
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Very funny. The mobile phone bits were very good. Maybe not quite as funny as the first episode, but there were plenty of great lines. Matt Berry looks like a great replacement for Chris Morris. I will miss Chris though. He was brilliant in the opening scene. Look forward to the next episode.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Matthew Stott said:
I liked it-Matt Berry is a comedy god. Ok, hes basically exactly the same in everything, but I cant get enough of it! That voice! Anyway . . .
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, johnny roulette said:
Quote: Aaron @ August 31, 2007, 7:53 PMIn the average Father Ted episode, what was there that was actually about being clergymen, or even particularly religious? It was all about the characters. One utter incompetent, one paralytic, and one undoubtedly well-intentioned, but really really fucking unlucky and put-your-foot-in-it. They were put in positions where people looked up to them, to a certain extent at least, and yet they were useless. Change the setting and it wouldn't lose any comedic value. No?
(Likewise most sitcoms really.)
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virtually every episode of Father Ted had stuff in it which was appropriate to the setting. such as scenes taking place in the parochial house, nuns, bishops, discussions about God, dougal doing a funeral etc
i agree that you could change the setting and still have comedic value but it wouldn't be called Father Ted. It would be called the IT crowd. probably.
Both are wonderful in my view. And this series of the IT crowd benefits massively from loosening its ties to the IT stuff and just being Father Ted set somewhere else.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Simon Stratton said:
Yes, unlike Father Ted, there's no relevance at all to the fact they are IT people - which somehow makes it better than if there was. But if the script had been submitted by a new writer...no chance.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Walker said:
Did anyone notice the reference to "Cigarettes, Alcohol, and Roller Blading" in the last episode?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
No, at what point did this happen?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Certainly did - 'lovely fags'. I hope there aren't too many more 'references' in future scripts.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, chipolata said:
I have to say, I'm really enjoying this series, and think it's a marked improvement on the the first series (thank god they've told the woman to stop shouting). Yes, there's still quite a few clunky lines, and it hasn't got the magic of Father Ted, but it's still very funny and refreshingly daft. And unlike Leevil, I'm glad Chris Morris has left. To me his presence always jarred slightly.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, SivoxII said:
What can you say about the IT Crowd?
You either love it or hate it, luckily, I LOVE IT!!! ... most people see it as cheesey, but I figure, that's the hidden deliberacy in this comedy, they work hard to make it cheesey, that's why it's funny!!
Favourite lines from the latest episode:
"You brush your teeth in the bath? ... that's where your balls are!"
"I've totally pimped your phone girlfriend!"
"I'm not putting it up to eight Moss, it will blow my cock off!!"
ACE.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Scatterbrained Floozy said:
I loved that first quote! amazing
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
Chris Morris's suicide was genius. You think after Nathan Barley you've seen all the possible ways of jumping out of a window and then hes comes up with another hilarious way
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
It's really great to see that the ratings have vastly improved as well.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
All hail IT Crowd!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Walker said:
Quote: Leevil @ September 3, 2007, 1:24 PMNo, at what point did this happen?
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During Denholm's funeral video. He lights a cigarette and blows the smoke onto the screen. All that was missing was the smoke turning into the phrase "lovely fags".
I hope it was a reference anyway. Or else he just ran out of ideas and dropped in something that worked in Father Ted.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
Riight, yeah I remember.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
I was actually expecting the words Lovely Fags to appear on the screen at the point.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Is this "reference" purely that he was smoking?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
Yeah, I don't get it.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
Quote: Aaron @ September 5, 2007, 11:21 PMIs this "reference" purely that he was smoking?
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Err, yeah. Probably not really a reference at all, but it definitely reminded me of Ted.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
If it really was just that he was smoking, sorry, but how the hell is that a reference? It's not like it's a particularly niche activity (as much as I may wish otherwise). I mean, we may as well say that the fact they can read is a reference to Black Books!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
I liked the smoking jokes tonight though. Like they're outcasts - which of course they should be!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Ben Ripley said:
I loved the anti-piracy warning and I share Roy's chagrin over people telling me there's a twist in a movie! As soon as I know that, I too cannot stop my brain from figuring it out and thus, spoiling the film.
That made me laugh a lot!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David H said:
I think I'll finally give up on this. It is so weak. You know, to be honest with you, I don't know who these characters are. If someone asked me what type of character Jen was I wouldn't know. She just kinda says lines. Roy's the same. I mean you can say Moss is a bit wacky but that's about it. And the scenes go on and on when they aren't funny in the first place.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Darren Goldsmith said:
Quote: David H @ September 8, 2007, 9:44 AMI think I'll finally give up on this. It is so weak. You know, to be honest with you, I don't know who these characters are. If someone asked me what type of character Jen was I wouldn't know. She just kinda says lines. Roy's the same. I mean you can say Moss is a bit wacky but that's about it. And the scenes go on and on when they aren't funny in the first place.
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Bet you watch it next week...
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: David H @ September 8, 2007, 9:44 AMYou know, to be honest with you, I don't know who these characters are. If someone asked me what type of character Jen was I wouldn't know. She just kinda says lines. Roy's the same. I mean you can say Moss is a bit wacky but that's about it.
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Thinking about it, I agree. I don't think it's quite as bad on the whole as you, but good point about the characters. Although she's grown on me a bit since the first series, I'm still not a huge fan of Jen. I wouldn't be awfully upset if she just disappeared, I don't think. Nothing to do with the actress playing her, and I guess she adds to the dynamic in a way that would otherwise lack without such a character, but if she left, I wouldn't be overly disappointed. I hope the show is given a chance to grow a bit more though, 'cos there's some good jokes and stories to be had, I think.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Jack Massey said:
Brilliant last night, I loved the idea the house gets raided because of the fake DVD
"That man is a canabal"
"Oh right. I just do piracy, but I'll get someone to look into it"
There was a case in the news last year of a German man who ate people with consent.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mark said:
I thought this week's was rather average but, like you say, still some funny lines.
I've seen next week's and its probably the best of the series so far so do stick with it (Jen holds a dinner party and Roy, Moss and Richmond un-surprisingly fail the whole social interaction thing spectacularly).
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
I love it but it must have a shelf life (I hate cliches). It can't really go on and on like OFAH's or something.
Father Ted ended out of necessity but it makes it all the better really. They couldn't flog a dead priest.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Matthew Stott said:
I thought last nights episode was great, probably the best episode the shows had so far; very strong. Hopefully it will stay this good for the rest of the series. And Matt Berry is great, 'Hey look, its me!' 'Theres somebody at the door, theres somebody at the door' All his bits are so like what you see him do in other things that I cant help but think he must have a little hand in some of the things he says and does.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Martin Holmes said:
I do like this show but I don't think I could ever love it. It's far too inconsistent, it has some nice gags sometimes and good pay-offs but some of the choices of casting is horrible, Katherine Parkinson was awful last night and she started doing that ridiculous shouting voice during the scene were Moss was telling them about meeting the cannibal. And also Matt Berry...jesus, he plays the exact same style in everything he's in, just terrible.
The show does make me laugh though and is always worth watching but it's very patchy.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Loopey said:
I've only just caught up with this thread and just watched the wheelchair episode. If someone pulls the emergency cord in a disabled loo, the staff have a key, so bashing the door down was not necessary and I felt it was just filling time. The patronizing looks were spot on though.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Matthew Stott said:
Quote: Martin Holmes @ September 8, 2007, 2:24 PMtel And also Matt Berry...jesus, he plays the exact same style in everything he's in, just terrible.
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I know hes the same in everything, but I cant get enough of it, I think hes great! Eveything he says and does seems to tickle me for some reason. Though having said that he doesnt do his usual schtick in Saxondale, hes a bit more naturalistic in that.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
I think Matt Berry is great, I can imagine him being a bit marmitey though.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, johnny roulette said:
it makes me laugh. and that is why i like it. on that basis i can forgive its weaknesses.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
I like Matt Berry too. I think he suits The IT Crowd very much. The piracy thing at the beginning and its pay off at the end were fantastic. Jen's smoking storyline was incredible. The fact that it's on just after Not Going Out now is brilliant. What an hour of comedy!!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
Quote: Loopey @ September 8, 2007, 2:26 PMI've only just caught up with this thread and just watched the wheelchair episode. If someone pulls the emergency cord in a disabled loo, the staff have a key, so bashing the door down was not necessary and I felt it was just filling time. The patronizing looks were spot on though.
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So you mean that it's not factually correct?
Oh - you disappoint me!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Loopey said:
I just thought the breaking down the door thing went on for too long considering the 'incorrect facts.'
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Frankie Rage said:
They could have lost the key!
In fact it could have been stolen!
There's another angle! Easy ain't it? ;-)
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Martin Holmes said:
Did anyone see tonights? Some funny lines but can't believe how much was ripped off other shows, especially the Peter File gag first used by Chris Morris on Brass Eye. Then lots of Seinfeld pinching. This show desperately wants to be good but it has so many flaws and it's a shame because you can see that it does have potential to be great.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at large. said:
I loved tonights! It was amazing! Just made me laugh aloud.
BTW is it slighty wrong that I think Matt Berry is kinda cute?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Jay72 said:
Quote: Martin Holmes @ September 14, 2007, 10:52 PMDid anyone see tonights? Some funny lines but can't believe how much was ripped off other shows, especially the Peter File gag first used by Chris Morris on Brass Eye. Then lots of Seinfeld pinching. This show desperately wants to be good but it has so many flaws and it's a shame because you can see that it does have potential to be great.
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I thought tonight's episode was very funny - best one so far. I'd forgotten about the Chris Morris link, but can't picture off the top of my head how Seinfeld was ripped off. Any examples?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
I'M PETER FILE!!!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, hotzappa11 said:
"I'VE WASHED MY HANDS!"
"Stop pinching me. I'm trying to eat my dinner!"
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
I liked their 'dinner party conversation': documentary, balsamic vinegar. Hee.
(And no, it is not strange to fancy Matt Berry)
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, johnny roulette said:
i enjoyed tonight's but i think the episodes are gradually getting less funny as the series progresses.
i missed matt berry. i wanted to see him at the dinner party.
i enjoyed the scene where they tried to look "normal" before the other gusets arrived.
and the bit where roy wanted a poo. being a child, i wanted to see that developed more. eg him in the toilet for ages, making a mess, no paper, log not flushing away etc. i would rather have seen that than the face conversation which i felt was a bit predictable and repetitive.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Darren Goldsmith said:
Quote: johnny roulette @ September 15, 2007, 10:02 AMi wanted to see that developed more. eg him in the toilet for ages, making a mess, no paper, log not flushing away etc.
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Surely THAT would have been predictable?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Martin Holmes said:
Quote: Jay72 @ September 14, 2007, 11:03 PMI thought tonight's episode was very funny - best one so far. I'd forgotten about the Chris Morris link, but can't picture off the top of my head how Seinfeld was ripped off. Any examples?
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Seinfeld examples:
Jen and her boyfriend been all cutesy-cutesy with each other and Roy and Moss looking uncomforable - Compares with Jerry and his girlfriend been all cutesy-cutesy with each other, remember "No you're Schmoopy" and George and Elaine looking uncomfortable. (Episode - The Soup Nazi)
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Roy trying to find out if the woman with the bandaged face is still attractive - Compares with Elaine trying to find out if her boyfriend who has a bandaged up face is still attractive, some lines from the scene: (Episode - The Stall)
ELAINE
so huh, what did the doctors say?
TONY
they said huh.. they said I'm coming along
ELAINE
but what else did they say
TONY
well, they said huh Tony, try to keep it clean
ELAINE
yeah.. no I mean did they get into stuff like a.. long jagged scars or.. gross deformities, major skin grafts, stuff like that
TONY
I really don't remember, I was kinda out of it for the 1st couple of days, I was on a lot of medications, it was kinda like a haze, it's pretty cool
ELAINE
huh (smiles) but huh, in this medicated haze, in this woozy state, um do you recall the words.. radical reconstructive surgery being uttered?
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And then the more obvious one, at the end when Jen is with her boyfriend and the tanoy announces "Can a Peter File please come to..." and everyone stares at them and Jen says "It's Peter File not paedophile!" - Compares with Elaine dating a guy called Joel Rifkin (who shares his name with a murderer) and at a baseball game this happens: (Episode - The Masseuse)
ANNOUNCER: Ladies and gentlemen, may I have your attention, please? Would Joel Rifkin report to the stadium office. Joel Rifkin...telephone. (the crowd stops cheering and we see a football player distracted from the game while hearing the announcer saying Joel Rifkin)
JOEL: Who would be calling me here? (he stands up and looks around)
ELAINE: (to the person in front of her) He's not the murderer.
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The first and last I picked up on, someone else on another site mentioned the "bandaged face" rip, which is basically just taken straight from Seinfeld. I know Grahame Linehan is a big Seinfeld fan so I'm not sure what his reasoning is, has he just got these ideas in his head subconciously forgetting that they were in Seinfeld or is he doing it intentionally.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, monkeybeard said:
I thought last nights episode was the best yet. Great dinner party scenes and loved the bit where Richmond was up on the ceiling
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Matthew Stott said:
Last nights episode was great, two really great episodes in a row now; it looks like this show is finally starting to live up to its potential. Though I would have loved to have seen Matt Berry at the dinner party rather than Richmond! Lets hope the rest of the series manages to maintain this level of quality.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Scatterbrained Floozy said:
Quote: zooo @ September 14, 2007, 11:44 PM.
(And no, it is not strange to fancy Matt Berry)
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you two should go see him in concert! he's doing a sing song
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David H said:
I gave up on this last week so didn't see it. But if he didn't have loo paper, (Elaine did that in Seinfeld) and if he couldn't flush it away (Mike did that in Spin City)
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Matthew Stott said:
neither of those things happened.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, johnny roulette said:
Quote: Darren Goldsmith @ September 15, 2007, 10:07 AMSurely THAT would have been predictable?
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yes. but being a child i wanted more poo.
i strongly suspect that one of the drafts of the script would have taken that poo plot line for roy and developed it further. but someone would have decided to cut it and just make Jen usher him back in to the dining room instead.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Martin Holmes said:
Yeah but Dumb and Dumber did one of the best "not been able to flush" scenes ever, so anything else would've paled in comparison.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
Brilliant again yesterday. Best yet? Possibly. I don't think you can compare the Peter File joke to that in Brass eye as they were very different. Roy's line about needing to poo was the best line of the series so far! Other higlights included Richmond on the ceiling, the guys acting normal before the guests arrived and Moss turning into an embarrassed husband. That's also two episodes in a row where Jen has yelled for a taxi. Not a major talking point, but I thought i'd mention it. Overall, this is me watching this episode and indeed this series so far ->
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
I don't watch Seinfeld so if he ripped it off I wouldn't know. I just thought it was funny.
The Peter File was so obvious that you had to laugh but you had to be on their wave length to think the Rifkin thing was funny.
Signed namesake of John Lennon's murderer.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Jay72 said:
Quote: Martin Holmes @ September 15, 2007, 11:43 AMSeinfeld examples:
Jen and her boyfriend been all cutesy-cutesy with each other and Roy and Moss looking uncomforable - Compares with Jerry and his girlfriend been all cutesy-cutesy with each other, remember "No you're Schmoopy" and George and Elaine looking uncomfortable. (Episode - The Soup Nazi)
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Roy trying to find out if the woman with the bandaged face is still attractive - Compares with Elaine trying to find out if her boyfriend who has a bandaged up face is still attractive, some lines from the scene: (Episode - The Stall)
ELAINE
so huh, what did the doctors say?
TONY
they said huh.. they said I'm coming along
ELAINE
but what else did they say
TONY
well, they said huh Tony, try to keep it clean
ELAINE
yeah.. no I mean did they get into stuff like a.. long jagged scars or.. gross deformities, major skin grafts, stuff like that
TONY
I really don't remember, I was kinda out of it for the 1st couple of days, I was on a lot of medications, it was kinda like a haze, it's pretty cool
ELAINE
huh (smiles) but huh, in this medicated haze, in this woozy state, um do you recall the words.. radical reconstructive surgery being uttered?
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And then the more obvious one, at the end when Jen is with her boyfriend and the tanoy announces "Can a Peter File please come to..." and everyone stares at them and Jen says "It's Peter File not paedophile!" - Compares with Elaine dating a guy called Joel Rifkin (who shares his name with a murderer) and at a baseball game this happens: (Episode - The Masseuse)
ANNOUNCER: Ladies and gentlemen, may I have your attention, please? Would Joel Rifkin report to the stadium office. Joel Rifkin...telephone. (the crowd stops cheering and we see a football player distracted from the game while hearing the announcer saying Joel Rifkin)
JOEL: Who would be calling me here? (he stands up and looks around)
ELAINE: (to the person in front of her) He's not the murderer.
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The first and last I picked up on, someone else on another site mentioned the "bandaged face" rip, which is basically just taken straight from Seinfeld. I know Grahame Linehan is a big Seinfeld fan so I'm not sure what his reasoning is, has he just got these ideas in his head subconciously forgetting that they were in Seinfeld or is he doing it intentionally.
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Have to say that's a good spot. I've seen those episodes and didn't pick up on any of them.
Still thought it was very funny though.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Martin Holmes said:
Quote: David Chapman @ September 15, 2007, 4:30 PMI don't watch Seinfeld so if he ripped it off I wouldn't know. I just thought it was funny.
The Peter File was so obvious that you had to laugh but you had to be on their wave length to think the Rifkin thing was funny.
Signed namesake of John Lennon's murderer.
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I don't get your point? The Peter File thing was not funny, it was good as a throw-away gag on Brass Eye, but it was laboured to beyond the point of funny in the IT Crowd last night.
The Joel Rifkin gag in Seinfeld worked so well because they are bound to be others called that and the fact that Elaine starts suggesting other names for him to use is great and then he gets into the idea and starts suggesting names himself, mainly Stuart which Elaine hates even more than Joel Rifkin.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
Quote: Martin Holmes @ September 15, 2007, 7:50 PMI don't get your point? The Peter File thing was not funny, it was good as a throw-away gag on Brass Eye, but it was laboured to beyond the point of funny in the IT Crowd last night.
The Joel Rifkin gag in Seinfeld worked so well because they are bound to be others called that and the fact that Elaine starts suggesting other names for him to use is great and then he gets into the idea and starts suggesting names himself, mainly Stuart which Elaine hates even more than Joel Rifkin.
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That's the whole point of Lineham's comedies.
He does overdo things and that's why WE find it funny. Also the situations are so ridiculous that they (probably) could never really happen. And the characters are unbelievable.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
I was really embarrassed by the Peter File pun, which I've even heard from my dad, who doesn't know who Chris Morris is. Also the actress who played Richmond's dinner partner was considerably off-key.
Richmond stuck to the ceiling was good though.
I hate to criticise this, but at the moment, the quality of the comedy doesn't accurately reflect the talent involved - which is immense.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at large. said:
Quote: Scatterbrained Floozy @ September 15, 2007, 12:12 PMyou two should go see him in concert! he's doing a sing song
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I would choke on my drool.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
Haha, Moss's reaction to hearing Peter File was great, I choked on my sandwich.
Really good episode this week, although the actors playing Jen's freinds, were really cringeworthy, but it's all good.
I love this show.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
I thought it was really funny - but then I would
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Interesting to see the divide of opinion on this one. Pretty Marmite I guess. For me, aside from a few good lines, it was really quite mediocre really. Just seemed to plod along at an average pace, no scene which was constantly funny, and no 'genius' or anything to write home about. Which is a shame really!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
Any news on the ratings for the last episode? I hope they haven't fallen as this show deserves high ratings.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mick Dolan said:
Quote: Godot Taxis @ September 15, 2007, 8:29 PMI hate to criticise this, but at the moment, the quality of the comedy doesn't accurately reflect the talent involved - which is immense.
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I tend to agree with this opinion. I think the writing is usually good, and has its flashes of brilliance. It doesn't have me in stitches all the time, but it consistently puts a smile on my face. Also, the acting definitely elevates the script exponentially.
Groan moment: "He was a fine young cannibal."
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Britcom Barry said:
I’ve only recorded these so far and have yet to watch them back but the fact that Martin Holmes disliked it and Leevil like it is a good omen.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Martin Holmes said:
Quote: Britcom Barry @ September 17, 2007, 6:59 PMI’ve only recorded these so far and have yet to watch them back but the fact that Martin Holmes disliked it and Leevil like it is a good omen.
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What's the suppose to mean? I do like this show at times but it does have lots of flaws.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mark Lewis said:
Judging by this thread, The IT Crowd is better than I gave it credit for. It seemed to me last series that Maltesers Girl was just shouty and face-pully, the Irish chap (who may or may not be the fat bloke from the 'doesn't work like that' adverts) had weak lines. And I remain frankly offended by the incredibly prolific black chap whose schtick in whatever he appears in seems to be a slow delivery in a foolish-sounding voice.
Oh man, I don't get it. But Linehan is a genius so perhaps I can be persuaded to give it another go.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Martin Holmes said:
It's not much different Mark to be honest. I say the show is worth it because it can provide laughs now and again but from an acting stand point it's pretty dire, especially Parkinson. Although Ayoade's style works well with this type of show I think and O'Dowd isn't too bad.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
Quote: Mark Lewis @ September 17, 2007, 7:48 PMJudging by this thread, The IT Crowd is better than I gave it credit for. It seemed to me last series that Maltesers Girl was just shouty and face-pully, the Irish chap (who may or may not be the fat bloke from the 'doesn't work like that' adverts)
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He looks nothing like him!!
He's not even from the same country!
You are a big massive mental.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
Quote: Britcom Barry @ September 17, 2007, 6:59 PMI’ve only recorded these so far and have yet to watch them back but the fact that Martin Holmes disliked it and Leevil like it is a good omen.
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Haha! I don't even know what you mean by that, but it sounds quite good.
Even though I think me n Martin share the same taste, he's too judgmental, lol, I was like that when I was his age, now I'm all patronising.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Martin Holmes said:
Quote: Leevil @ September 17, 2007, 9:33 PMHaha! I don't even know what you mean by that, but it sounds quite good.
Even though I think me n Martin share the same taste, he's too judgmental, lol, I was like that when I was his age, now I'm all patronizing.
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Ha. It's not that I'm too judgmental, I just know how good comedy can and has been and I won't champion something that's mediocre just because it's slightly better than that other thing that's shit.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: Mick Dolan @ September 17, 2007, 4:08 AMGroan moment: "He was a fine young cannibal."
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Funnily enough (or not), that was actually my favourite line in that ep I think!
And hello to you, Mark Lewis.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David H said:
Quote: Martin Holmes @ September 17, 2007, 9:45 PMHa. It's not that I'm too judgmental, I just know how good comedy can and has been and I won't champion something that's mediocre just because it's slightly better than that other thing that's shit.
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That is the same view I share. These things are better than Blunder etc, but they're really not much cop. They don't have the longevity of the classics. You know when you've seen a good show.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
Quote: Aaron @ September 17, 2007, 10:03 PMFunnily enough (or not), that was actually my favourite line in that ep I think!
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Have to beg to differ Aaron the funniest line was about the guy pooing in the policeman's helmet
And welcome to the BSG Mark
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: ajp29 @ September 17, 2007, 11:45 PMHave to beg to differ Aaron the funniest line was about the guy pooing in the policeman's helmet
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I don't even remember that one. :-/
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mick Dolan said:
Quote: Martin Holmes @ September 17, 2007, 9:45 PMHa. It's not that I'm too judgmental, I just know how good comedy can and has been and I won't champion something that's mediocre just because it's slightly better than that other thing that's shit.
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But it's not about "championing" it, unless you're their marketing director. :p It's just a reality that the majority of art produced – whether it be tv shows, movies, music, or some other form – is horrible. When a show comes along that's funny (all the way through or in parts), then it's just nice to appreciate it. Can my wife cook like a cordon bleu chef? No, but that doesn't mean I'm going to "not champion mediocrity" and refuse to eat it. There's room to enjoy the really great classics and have fun with the good stuff as well, if for no other reason than to highlight why classics are classics.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
Quote: Mick Dolan @ September 18, 2007, 12:17 AMCan my wife cook like a cordon bleu chef? No, but that doesn't mean I'm going to "not champion mediocrity" and refuse to eat it.
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I'm going to try that line the next time someones cooks me something 'I'm sorry, I won't champion mediocrity by eating this' Brilliant
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mick Dolan said:
Quote: ajp29 @ September 18, 2007, 2:45 AM
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Just make sure you remember to give me credit.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
Quote: Mark Lewis @ September 17, 2007, 7:48 PMthe Irish chap (who may or may not be the fat bloke from the 'doesn't work like that' adverts)
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What the hell???
Quote: zooo @ September 17, 2007, 9:19 PM
You are a big massive mental.
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I'll second that!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, waytoblue said:
Got a couple of clips of episode 5 (completely legally, I should add) that I've just stuck up on YouTube - you can view them here:
Roy fixes Douglas Reynholm's computer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-wXVU70FW4
Moss invents the perfect bra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWVJyXPZ0kc
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
Is this right?
The second series out on DVD October 1st? 3 days after the last episode airs?
If that information is correct, I hope that doesn't mean there will be a lack of extras. Graham's normally pretty good with commentaries and the such.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Yep, that's correct. And it's still not the quickest ever transfer to DVD!
Not sure why it would mean that there wouldn't be extras though?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
I still haven't got the first series yet. But by God, I will.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mark said:
Quote: Leevil @ September 20, 2007, 5:56 PMI still haven't got the first series yet. But by God, I will.
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If you are going to buy series one Leevil get the double-boxset...
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
Haha! Yes I might just do that, although I'm not too keen on boxes, don't ask why, I'm weird.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Quote: waytoblue @ September 20, 2007, 1:39 PMGot a couple of clips of episode 5 (completely legally, I should add) that I've just stuck up on YouTube - you can view them here:
Roy fixes Douglas Reynholm's computer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-wXVU70FW4
Moss invents the perfect bra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWVJyXPZ0kc
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The oven of shame... gas mark egg-on-your-face... Now that's funny.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
Quote: Leevil @ September 20, 2007, 6:25 PMHaha! Yes I might just do that, although I'm not too keen on boxes, don't ask why, I'm weird.
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I that why you let other people live in yours
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: Leevil @ September 20, 2007, 6:25 PMI'm weird.
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AN ADMISSION! FINALLY!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
Quote: Aaron @ September 20, 2007, 5:43 PMYep, that's correct. And it's still not the quickest ever transfer to DVD!
Not sure why it would mean that there wouldn't be extras though?
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I don't know. Maybe I was thinking that they were rushing the release or something. There's no mention of extras on Amazon.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Yeah, but we all know how patchy Amazon's info can be. Check our entry; there's quite a bit of extras info there.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
Quote: Aaron @ September 20, 2007, 11:29 PMAN ADMISSION! FINALLY!
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Isn't the tattoo across the forehead enough?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Cinnamon said:
Is it coincidence that every part Richard Ayoade takes is acted 'deliberately' badly? Still, every episode has it's moments, it just pales in comparison with...anything Linehan has done previously.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
I've never seen Richard Ayoade in anything before to my knowledge. I still think its one of the funniest new things on TV.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
Garth Maranges Dark Place, he was the reason I watched it, because of his hilarious "bad acting". He was also in Look Around You, I think?
That's all I know him from though.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
He's played lots of very different characters. He's a great actor!
He's 'normal' in the film Festival, and on Time Trumpet too.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
Ahh Time Trumpet.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
Quote: Leevil @ September 21, 2007, 7:43 PMGarth Maranges Dark Place, he was the reason I watched it, because of his hilarious "bad acting". He was also in Look Around You, I think?
That's all I know him from though.
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I don't remember seing him in Look Around You. But, he was great in Darkplace.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
Nathan Barley as well.
He might not of been in 'Look Around You' but I'm sure I remember seeing him in once as an inventor or something?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
maybe he was. i just can't remember.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
He was in Look Around You. He was playing the guitar I think.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
Was he the rapper? Or was that the guy out of Gimmie, Gimmie, Gimmie?
They all look the same to me, comedy actors that is
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at large. said:
All I remember of his role in nathan barely was the tiny hat he wore!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Jessie said:
I saw him in an episode of The Mighty Boosh late last night. Series 2 something.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
Quote: Leevil @ September 21, 2007, 8:37 PMWas he the rapper? Or was that the guy out of Gimmie, Gimmie, Gimmie?
They all look the same to me, comedy actors that is
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No he wasn't that scary rapper.
It was just him in a room, he was either playing or introducing a nice seventies song. Like Jimmy Saville on TOTP, only... nice.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at large. said:
"I feel trapped like a moth in the bath!"
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Matthew Stott said:
A great episode, I really think this series is getting better and better.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at large. said:
I have that shade of lippy somewhere.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Jack Massey said:
A powercut occured half way through tonights episode, but all back on now, so I will watch it on Channel 4 + 1.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
Very stupid but very funny.
And I'm still none the wiser having never seen the programmes you say that Richard has been in.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
What you wanna do, is get out less.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
I love not getting out. It's loads of fun.
(That sounds far more saucy than I intended.)
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Jack Massey said:
I've just broke my PC, I typed Google into google.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
just make sure Jack that you get a decent bra
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
The plots to this series have been completely daft, but brilliant. Definitely better than the first series. The computer/briefcase joke was my favourite bit yesterday. It's such a shame there's only one more episode left. At least the DVD will be out just a few days later.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Matthew Stott said:
Hope this gets a third series as it seems to be improving more and more as it goes along; so a third series could be great.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Quote: Jessie @ September 21, 2007, 8:51 PMI saw him in an episode of The Mighty Boosh late last night. Series 2 something.
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He was also the original Dixon Bainbridge, hence the description by Noel in his artwork as 'a black Roger Moore'.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Matthew Stott said:
Ive seen the pilot where he plays Bainbridge, and Im glad he couldnt do the series, because I dont think hes a patch on Matt Berry in the role. I love the series two episode he appears in though, with the little head octopus thing; very, very funny.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Jay72 said:
Funny episode again. Not as good as last weeks for me, but some great moments nonetheless.
Loved it when the bra burst into flames!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
When does this mother repeat? I missed this weeks "grr!" Do I have to wait till next Thursday or whenever?
I'll go watch it on 4OD.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at large. said:
Just read about next week. It's gonna be a good one!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Just watched this week's episode (from Friday night). Very, very funny. Had me properly lol-ing all the way through. Definitely the best episode to date, series one included.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Jude said:
It really made me laugh and I loved the flaming bra
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
I thought the whole episode was a bit contrived and lazy especially the Moz appearing on the news bit. I already new the punchline to that joke as soon as Moz said he couldn't remember the name.
Father Ted set up jokes in a similar way but it was so masterfully done, in hindsight by the director, that you never felt that it was overly staged or blindingless obvious. So to put it bluntly i thought it was poor. And what the (i'm going to swear) fuck is up with the lighting!?! Were the union on strike or something, again this just points to the director not making this show as good as it could be.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
This wasn't the best episode, I shouldn't have read this thread before, I was too excited.
It felt like it's something they'd stuck together with bits from other shows, lol.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: ajp29 @ September 23, 2007, 7:38 PMI thought the whole episode was a bit contrived and lazy especially the Moz appearing on the news bit. I already new the punchline to that joke as soon as Moz said he couldn't remember the name.
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But then you're an over-analysing writer, so not really the target audience anyway.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
Quote: Aaron @ September 23, 2007, 7:56 PMBut then you're an over-analysing writer, so not really the target audience anyway.
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Is that a polite way of calling me a grumpy bastard
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
In a roundabout sort of way.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, johnny roulette said:
i enjoyed this one. it made me laugh again. but i thought the bra bursting into flames was a cop out really.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Ben Ripley said:
I thought the episode 'Smoke & Mirrors' was hilarious. I loved the google joke and Jen's "My tits are on fire"...
(Also, anything with Amelia Bulmore in gets extra points from me!)
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Who was she?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Leevil said:
I think she was the lawyer?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
Her from Suburban Shootout.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mick Dolan said:
I agree with Leevil... I shouldn't have read this thread before watching. I thought, "My God, Arron – who didn't laugh at Spaced or This is Spinal Tap – laughed all the way through! It has to be rip-roaringly, side-splittingly hilarious. But it wasn't. I prefer the 'situational' stuff, like when Roy and Moss both get caught in predicaments as a result of the bathroom attendant and their inability to pee. It was certainly contrived, but it had its moments. I loved the bits with the boss, except the punchline... this is a suitcase.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Quote: ajp29 @ September 23, 2007, 7:38 PMI thought the whole episode was a bit contrived and lazy especially the Moz appearing on the news bit. I already new the punchline to that joke as soon as Moz said he couldn't remember the name.
Father Ted set up jokes in a similar way but it was so masterfully done, in hindsight by the director, that you never felt that it was overly staged or blindingless obvious. So to put it bluntly i thought it was poor. And what the (i'm going to swear) fuck is up with the lighting!?! Were the union on strike or something, again this just points to the director not making this show as good as it could be.
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There are a number of instances in this series and the last where the show has suffered a little because Linehan is directing. A little example is last weeks show when Jen goes for a taxi at the end. It's not quite punchy enough because the original take isn't long enough but the editor has to hold it. The first series had a few scenes where the characters' heads are too close to the top of the frame because Linehan had ordered too tight crops. Another good example is when the jap businessman jumps on Jen's feet in the DMs, the cut away of the outside of the building doesn't work. It's Linehan trying to get the same effect from the Father Ted scene when the AA man tries to stop Jack drinking and it jump cuts to an ambulance. He's a good director of actors and he gets the most out of his lines but like many writers who direct falls down on shooting 'coverage' and the technical stuff.
I totally agree with AJP about the episode being contrived and a bit lazy, although it was very funny. It definitely feels as if Linehan didn't have the ideas for this series or he was working on something else at the same time. And now we know why Chris Morris isn't in it any more.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Quote: Matthew Stott @ September 22, 2007, 7:50 PMIve seen the pilot where he plays Bainbridge, and Im glad he couldnt do the series, because I dont think hes a patch on Matt Berry in the role. I love the series two episode he appears in though, with the little head octopus thing; very, very funny.
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Well yeah, Matt Berry is outstanding as Dixon bainbridge. Luckily I met him in a pub last year and was able to tell him what a comedy God he is. Stupidly forgot to shout Whiskey! to the barmaid.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mick Dolan said:
Quote: Godot Taxis @ September 24, 2007, 6:26 AMThere are a number of instances in this series and the last where the show has suffered a little because Linehan is directing. A little example is last weeks show when Jen goes for a taxi at the end. It's not quite punchy enough because the original take isn't long enough but the editor has to hold it. The first series had a few scenes where the characters' heads are too close to the top of the frame because Linehan had ordered too tight crops. Another good example is when the jap businessman jumps on Jen's feet in the DMs, the cut away of the outside of the building doesn't work. It's Linehan trying to get the same effect from the Father Ted scene when the AA man tries to stop Jack drinking and it jump cuts to an ambulance. He's a good director of actors and he gets the most out of his lines but like many writers who direct falls down on shooting 'coverage' and the technical stuff.
I totally agree with AJP about the episode being contrived and a bit lazy, although it was very funny. It definitely feels as if Linehan didn't have the ideas for this series or he was working on something else at the same time. And now we know why Chris Morris isn't in it any more.
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But do you really think the average person notices or cares about some of the technical stuff you've mentioned?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Depends what you mean by average person. I wrote it for the people on this forum of which you're a member and i'm another. If you don't care that's up to you.
Regarding editing: if a film is badly edited, only editors will say 'that's badly edited', but most people recognise that something's 'wrong', they just don't know what it is.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mick Dolan said:
Quote: Godot Taxis @ September 24, 2007, 8:25 AMDepends what you mean by average person. I wrote it for the people on this forum of which you're a member and i'm another. If you don't care that's up to you.
Regarding editing: if a film is badly edited, only editors will say 'that's badly edited', but most people recognise that something's 'wrong', they just don't know what it is.
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I'm not even sure if some people will recognize something is wrong. I think it would have to be Garth Marenghi's Darkplace level of bad for people to actually notice.
I'm not sure I'd consider us to be average viewers. Percentage wise, I think there are far more people viewing the program than are online discussing it.
That's not to say that it's not important. I think if it is well directed and edited it elevates the results of the show. Maybe I'm way off, but I think a show like Spaced has great directing and editing and it improves the show's overall quality enormously. Had it been poorly directed, I think it definitely would have been a worse show in general, but would a techno dope like myself actually see what could have been (or where the direction had gone bad)?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, johnny roulette said:
Regarding editing: if a film is badly edited, only editors will say 'that's badly edited', but most people recognise that something's 'wrong', they just don't know what it is.
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i totally agree. any minor mistake in directing or editing can cause a joke to fail or a scene to be less funny than it should be. when a show is done really well you don't notice, you just laugh. when mistakes are made everyone will notice, its just that people like us will realise why we are noticing, whereas "normal"people will just not laugh. or notr laugh as much as they should.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mark said:
Quote: Godot Taxis @ September 24, 2007, 6:26 AMThere are a number of instances in this series and the last where the show has suffered a little because Linehan is directing.
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Unfortunately Linehan makes a less-than-convincing cameo at the start of this Friday's episode.
I have to agree though - It is one of those things you don't notice if it is done right, but direction is quite important in making things funny.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: Mick Dolan @ September 24, 2007, 3:32 AMI thought, "My God, Arron – who didn't laugh at Spaced or This is Spinal Tap – laughed all the way through! It has to be rip-roaringly, side-splittingly hilarious. But it wasn't. I prefer the 'situational' stuff...
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I like the funny stuff.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mick Dolan said:
Quote: Aaron @ September 24, 2007, 11:15 AMI like the funny stuff.
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I just realized I spelled your name wrong. Ouch! In my defence, I've got a cold today.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: Mark @ September 24, 2007, 11:04 AMI have to agree though - It is one of those things you don't notice if it is done right, but direction is quite important in making things funny.
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As particularly proven by Home Again.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, waytoblue said:
Got a couple more preview clip for you guys, this time of Episode 6, up on YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XgMfGtjaDM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XGs36hUrtQ
Enjoy!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
I'm no good at names but is the girl the receptionist in Doc Martin?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
Quote: Mick Dolan @ September 24, 2007, 3:32 AMI agree with Leevil... I shouldn't have read this thread before watching. I thought, "My God, Arron – who didn't laugh at Spaced or This is Spinal Tap – laughed all the way through! It has to be rip-roaringly, side-splittingly hilarious. But it wasn't. I prefer the 'situational' stuff, like when Roy and Moss both get caught in predicaments as a result of the bathroom attendant and their inability to pee. It was certainly contrived, but it had its moments. I loved the bits with the boss, except the punchline... this is a suitcase.
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It wasn't a suitcase, it was a briefcase. Christ!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, zooo said:
Or it was a suitcase, and Roy is just really massive.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
I meant to mention this earlier, I'm surprised that no-ones mentioned that Moss's appearance on the news is obviously a reference to the real life event where that bloke ended up on the news when he had only went for an interview.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
Quote: earman2009 @ September 24, 2007, 9:41 PMI meant to mention this earlier, I'm surprised that no-ones mentioned that Moss's appearance on the news is obviously a reference to the real life event where that bloke ended up on the news when he had only went for an interview.
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I thought the same too. It was a good idea though.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
Quote: earman2009 @ September 24, 2007, 9:41 PMI meant to mention this earlier, I'm surprised that no-ones mentioned that Moss's appearance on the news is obviously a reference to the real life event where that bloke ended up on the news when he had only went for an interview.
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I thought it was so obvious i didn't feel the need to mention it was obvious but as soon as moz said, i have an interview with the producers and I can't remember the name i gave, I knew that was going to be the punchline. Its also why I mentioned it was contrived.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, David Chapman said:
The thing is it's almost the unbelievable situation that you'd see in a sitcom. You couldn't believe thast it could really happen.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mark said:
Quote: waytoblue @ September 24, 2007, 5:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XGs36hUrtQ
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I love the ambulance bit in this clip... it sums up the show perfectly - a celebration of silliness where the boring grind of 'what would really happen' (i.e. 999 would never have responded) is ignored to make way for laughs.
I'm going to have to go out and try a similar prank myself in real life now.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: ajp29 @ September 24, 2007, 10:24 PMI thought it was so obvious i didn't feel the need to mention it was obvious but as soon as moz said, i have an interview with the producers and I can't remember the name i gave, I knew that was going to be the punchline. Its also why I mentioned it was contrived.
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Good God. How do you like anything, let alone find anything funny?! The whole nature of sitcom is that it's contrived!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
Quote: Aaron @ September 25, 2007, 11:16 AMGood God. How do you like anything, let alone find anything funny?! The whole nature of sitcom is that it's contrived!
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I mean 
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mick Dolan said:
Quote: Aaron @ September 25, 2007, 11:16 AMGood God. How do you like anything, let alone find anything funny?! The whole nature of sitcom is that it's contrived!
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Only the bad ones you like.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Aaron said:
Quote: Mick Dolan @ September 25, 2007, 2:25 PMOnly the bad funny ones you like.
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On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
Quote: ajp29 @ September 24, 2007, 10:24 PMI thought it was so obvious i didn't feel the need to mention it was obvious but as soon as moz said, i have an interview with the producers and I can't remember the name i gave, I knew that was going to be the punchline. Its also why I mentioned it was contrived.
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I know it was obvious, but i just thought someone would mention it. Actually, i nearly didn't mention it myself because of how obvious it was. I didn't see it coming on the show though.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mick Dolan said:
Quote: earman2009 @ September 25, 2007, 9:38 PMI know it was obvious, but i just thought someone would mention it. Actually, i nearly didn't mention it myself because of how obvious it was. I didn't see it coming on the show though.
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Being in China, I hadn't heard about that situation. I had no clue it was taken from real life.
So, thanks.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
Mick heres a link, apologies if youtube is restricted in China. Watch his face as it cuts to him its pure comedy gold.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt3W6X8971o
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, earman2009 said:
Didn't he then go for the interview for real afterwards and end up not getting the job? How could you not give him the job after that?
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, wii-man76 said:
I was round a mates house the other day and caught one of the new episodes!
I know it hasn't finished on the TV as of yet, but I can't wait for it to be released on DVD so I can see all of the episodes!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
I'll probably put a torrent up of my own DVD of this if anyone wants to save some money.
Don't worry, as tempted as I am, i won't be adding an audio commentary of my own.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, ajp29 said:
Quote: Godot Taxis @ September 26, 2007, 11:16 PMI'll probably put a torrent up of my own DVD of this if anyone wants to save some money.
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You'll be shitting in policeman's helmets next
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mick Dolan said:
Quote: ajp29 @ September 26, 2007, 9:15 AMMick heres a link, apologies if youtube is restricted in China. Watch his face as it cuts to him its pure comedy gold.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt3W6X8971o
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Thanks for the link, much appreciated.
omg, that's so funny! Wow, the interviewer must have felt like a knob afterwards. I mean, it really highlights the utter uselessness of 'soundbite' media.
I can get YouTube over here, as long as the page doesn't have a 'key' word, like "Tiananmen". Google video, on the other hand, doesn't work here, but not from blocking, they just don't service this area.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mark said:
Quote: Mick Dolan @ September 27, 2007, 5:41 AMI can get YouTube over here, as long as the page doesn't have a 'key' word, like "Tiananmen".
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I hope you haven't just shot yourself in the foot Mick and got yourself locked out of this website for posting that keyword!
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Mick Dolan said:
Quote: Mark @ September 27, 2007, 10:41 AMI hope you haven't just shot yourself in the foot Mick and got yourself locked out of this website for posting that keyword!
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Nah, it's usually fairly safe to say anything on forums. Maybe it has to do with the whatchamacallit... the area in a web page where you put all the key words for -- let's say -- search engines to check. I forget the technical term for it, but anyone who has made a web site knows what I mean. Man, I need to brush up on my web page making skills. Been too too long.
On Wednesday 31st December 1969 GMT at 7:00 PM GMT, Godot Taxis said:
Quote: ajp29 @ September 27, 2007, 1:04 AMYou'll be shitting in policeman's helmets next
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Aren't they already full of shit?