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Tennant was bloody good in Casanova.
 

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Quote: Aaron @ May 11 2008, 5:16 PM BST

Tennant was bloody good in Casanova.


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Yes, and when I was watching that I thought hed be perfect for the Doctor! Perhaps I can see into the future . . .
 
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I love Casanova! And thought exactly the same about Tennat from Quatermass.
 
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Also helped that RTD wrote Casanova as well, so it was sort of like a dry run. Except for all the sex. Theres not as much sexy sex in Who.
 
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Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 11 2008, 12:38 PM BST

Not serious doesnt mean pantomime though, pantomime is nothing like Who; to comapre it to pantomime is a sort of sneery point of view; nothing described as pantomime, except for a pantomime, would take that as anything other than an insult. And I love eighties Who, which wasnt pantomime-y either, just very badly lit, dressed and cast! :D


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I think pantomime is more or less used as a synonym for camp. The last two producers of the show have shown some fondness for it. They've also both cast good looking younger men as the doctor, altering the format of the show somewhat in that the doctor is now a more or less traditional romantic lead character, which up to Baker he wasn't.
 
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To Laura's disappointment.
 
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Quote: Godot Taxis @ May 11 2008, 5:26 PM BST

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Yeah, but I dont see whats camp about Who at the moment? If people didnt know Davies was gay, would they still think it was camp?? Whats camp about it? Its funny and at times frothy, but so was Buffy, and no one called that camp. Maybe I just dont see it.
 
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Tennant's gay? Camp means to me cheery, self referential, comedic, and willingnes to use romantic themes. Irony is acceptable, but most only be used for gentle mockery.

So He Man was camp, as is Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Camp doesn't have to be at gayness.
 
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Quote: sootyj @ May 11 2008, 5:32 PM BST



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Blasphemy!!! Feed him to the snakes!
 
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Davies is gay, not David.

I've only just watched Casanova properly. Absolutely breathtaking. Even if David hadn't been in it, it was amazing. RTD really is one of the best. Even if his Who decisions aren't always perfect he had made some of my favourite programmes.
 
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Quote: sootyj @ May 11 2008, 5:32 PM BST

Tennant's gay? Camp means to me cheery, self referential, comedic, and willingnes to use romantic themes. Camp doesn't have to be at gayness.


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No, Russel T Davies is gay. And according to that check list, any number of shows could be called camp. Spaced or the Mighty Boosh more or less fit those check points, but I wouldnt say they were camp! And I think camp does generally go hand in hand with gayness. Gayness?
 
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Well it's interesting met some one at a writers group who was talking about Jewish and Christian styles of rom-coms. Don't have to be made by Jews or Christians, but it reflects a certain style of writing.

Just realised left the door open for Islamophobic jokes.


n.b. Boosh is a deeply camp show, where as Spaced is to knowing, and mean spirited (I loved it!)
 
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Quote: sootyj @ May 11 2008, 5:42 PM BST

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The Boosh! Camp!!
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Are You Being Served is camp, not that theres anything wrong with that, but the Boosh?! Really?!?! Dont see it at all, perhaps my camp-ometer is on the blink.
 
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Na I register a 0.50 on the camp meter for Boosh dude your good.

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Oh come on, the songs, the colurfulness, the homoerotic relationship between the leads, the costumes it's camp as tents.

Aah you being served, is hateful and homophobic.
 
The ASDA of satire.

I hate purity, I hate goodness!I don't want any virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone to be corrupt to the bones.

But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.

1984

 
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