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Aaron

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April 25, 2008, 12:34 PM BST
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Gareth McLean has a funny face.
And that whole entry is a blatant "I'M NOT BOTHERED, HONEST!" whilst he secretly wipes away the tears. Look at the photo anyway. Can't decide if he wants to be emo or tramp.
But moving on. Yeah, interesting. I guess now that it's becoming more widely known to be popular and to be successful, those that don't like it are becoming more vocal. Which is always the case really.
P.S. Down with Firefox! Down with Apple!
What? Whaatt?!
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April 25, 2008, 1:01 PM BST Edited by Oliver on April 25 2008, 1:09 PM BST
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Quote: Aaron @ April 25 2008, 12:34 PM BST
Gareth McLean has a funny face.
And that whole entry is a blatant "I'M NOT BOTHERED, HONEST!" whilst he secretly wipes away the tears. Look at the photo anyway. Can't decide if he wants to be emo or tramp.
But moving on. Yeah, interesting. I guess now that it's becoming more widely known to be popular and to be successful, those that don't like it are becoming more vocal. Which is always the case really.
P.S. Down with Firefox! Down with Apple!
What? Whaatt?!
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Yeah but things that dominate because they are good srew business etc, hence the responses. G&S is pretty lame
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Well, that's not a joke, that's why.
It sounds like one, and it looks like one. But it's not. It doesn't really make sense on any level.
From what I've watched it's one of those shows that thinks that sentimentality and little lines like the above makes a good comedy. It doesn't. Epitomises what's wrong with 21st century comedy. It's the kind of show that thinks it's above anything with laughter track. Crap modern observations, coy little 'realistic' lines, grandiose dialogue packed with mawkishness.
Also, The Office scripts are packed with gags. "I've got my own room. That's seen a lot of action . . . Dusting mainly") It's funny on the page, easily.
G&S, for me, is bloody awful. James Corden is absolutely appalling, and also really annoying. Horne isn't much better.
But then BabyCow haven't produced anything of any worth for years. Barring Saxondale which has it's moments.
Great characters? Where? It's so flat. Having an accent and referencing real life doesn't make good characters. "Oh, look ANOTHER sad bit where they act all awkward and can't look each other in the eye." Christ, it's got 'Look at us, we're funny AND touching' written all over it.
The performances are non-existent and there's not a joke in sight.
But people in real life aren't funny on screen. I know some very funny people, but who just wouldn't work as TV characters.
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I LOVE YOU SEEFACTS!!!!!!!!!!! WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Gavin and Stacey = most boring, cliched, worthless program ever = for old and stupid common people!
James Corden is a fat bloke! Wow! That's brilliant
'oh look a welsh idiot and an essex prat get married and they 'luv each over!'
lets all cry and laugh and throw baftas at them
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April 25, 2008, 1:38 PM BST
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'Cos maybe one will hit them on the head and knock them out cold?
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Quote: Oliver @ April 25 2008, 1:01 PM BST
Yeah but things that dominate because they are good srew business etc, hence the responses. G&S is pretty lame
I LOVE YOU SEEFACTS!!!!!!!!!!! WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Gavin and Stacey = most boring, cliched, worthless program ever = for old and stupid common people!
James Corden is a fat bloke! Wow! That's brilliant
'oh look a welsh idiot and an essex prat get married and they 'luv each over!'
lets all cry and laugh and throw baftas at them
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Oliver, I would like you to qualify your idea that G&S is for 'old and stupid common people'...failure to do so will lend weight to my belief that you posted an ill thought out and brainless comment.
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April 25, 2008, 2:05 PM BST Edited by Oliver on April 25 2008, 2:06 PM BST
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Quote: manchester's trendy chorlton @ April 25 2008, 1:46 PM BST
Oliver, I would like you to qualify your idea that G&S is for 'old and stupid common people'...failure to do so will lend weight to my belief that you posted an ill thought out and brainless comment.
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OH NO! Shit, do I have 28 days to reply!
Will my License To Think be revoked?
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April 25, 2008, 2:20 PM BST
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No, but by making such a strong statement and then refusing to back it up with any kind of cogent argument - it does indicate that perhaps your license should be.
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April 25, 2008, 2:33 PM BST
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Quote: manchester's trendy chorlton @ April 25 2008, 2:20 PM BST
No, but by making such a strong statement and then refusing to back it up with any kind of cogent argument - it does indicate that perhaps your license should be.
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Well, I think the first thing to do would be to ressurect some Nazi's, burn some books, kidnap and gag a few artists, and then get them to help you punish me for my insolence....
...which of course I should be because I didn't respond to you at an exam level, with 'cohesive' arguments.
I can only assume you must know someone or you write for this show!
And if you do that does not suprise me.
chill out Grandad!!  ) Happy thoughts
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April 25, 2008, 2:48 PM BST
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Um, okay. I just think that on a site geared towards intelligent discussion regarding sitcom, it makes sense that arguments should be backed up with some kind of thought process.
I don't work on G&S, but I do work in the creative side of the industry. I don't know you, but if you have any kind of aspirations in the field, then you will have to up your game.
if not, that's cool, keep on truckin' - and keep on keeping me in work! peace.
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April 25, 2008, 2:50 PM BST Edited by Oliver on April 25 2008, 2:52 PM BST
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Quote: manchester's trendy chorlton @ April 25 2008, 2:48 PM BST
Um, okay. I just think that on a site geared towards intelligent discussion regarding sitcom, it makes sense that arguments should be backed up with some kind of thought process.
I don't work on G&S, but I do work in the creative side of the industry. I don't know you, but if you have any kind of aspirations in the field, then you will have to up your game.
if not, that's cool, keep on truckin' - and keep on keeping me in work! peace.
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Ha Ha, if only you knew! But you kept going so I give in
Here's your synopis of why it appeals to the lower IQ levels:
Essex prats, Welsh monkeys. Boring information, emotion for morons.
jokes involving police in wales who cant stop talking but let you go when you commit an offence
hilariouus...
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gay jokes involving brokeback mountain
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a granny who uses facebook
All things that just about everyone no matter how retarded or incontinent can understand! No laugh out loud, witty, fast paced, new, or otherwise intelligent material.
Maybe next season they could do a joke about someone having sex with a sheep
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Ok, you're giving examples of why you dont like it - and true enough, you have highlighted a couple of jokes that are 'obvious' at best. And I agree that the show is certainly not deserving of the critical acclaim it appears to be enojying.
However, the question I asked was why you thought only 'stupid common people' would like it. Your implied connection between people of 'lower' social class and lack of intelligence is spurious, at best. It betrays an ill conceived prejudice.
I'm interested though, what part of the industry do you work in?
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April 25, 2008, 3:17 PM BST
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Quote: manchester's trendy chorlton @ April 25 2008, 3:08 PM BST
Ok, you're giving examples of why you dont like it - and true enough, you have highlighted a couple of jokes that are 'obvious' at best. And I agree that the show is certainly not deserving of the critical acclaim it appears to be enojying.
However, the question I asked was why you thought only 'stupid common people' would like it. Your implied connection between people of 'lower' social class and lack of intelligence is spurious, at best. It betrays an ill conceived prejudice.
I'm interested though, what part of the industry do you work in?
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No no!
I am really not one for political correctness. Stupid common people like simple jokes. If I said 'common people' are 'stupid' that would be different.
The Uk thrives on stupid common people
Who do you think buys Jade Goody/usher/britney spears perfume. Who watches Hotel Babylon, who goes into the cinema and pays to see 'EPIC MOVIE'
STUPID COMMON PEOPLE: (singing) 'we do....we do!'
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April 25, 2008, 3:29 PM BST
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Hey man, Hotel Babylon is most totally excellent.
And, as Ian and charisma will no doubt tell us, it co-stars Emma Pierson.
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April 25, 2008, 3:34 PM BST
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Oliver, thanks for explaining. I see what you're saying, benefit of the doubt awarded.
You are 100% correct re Hotel Babylon, although I might expand that to say stupid middle class people like it just as much, if not more.
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April 25, 2008, 3:45 PM BST
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Sacrilege!
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April 25, 2008, 4:19 PM BST
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I always assumed the phrase 'stupid common people' referred to the middle classes, not the lower classes. After all, there's nothing more homogenous than the middle classes. They all drink wine for example, whereas working class people drink anything from Cinzano to White Lightning. And most middle class people are very stupid, they're just well educated, which hides a multitude of sins.
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