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sootyj

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April 14, 2008, 9:16 PM BST Edited by sootyj on April 14 2008, 9:21 PM BST
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Sigh read what the Mail, and the Times have to say about him as a mayoral candidate. A funny, brilliant maverick lead around by the nose, by his joyless and rather nasty Australian campaign manager.
Ken has achieved, and achieved as mayor. Safer streets, what ever the redtops say, workable transport policies. The guy has seen off strikes, riots, and terrorism. And he's being hung out to dry because his race adviser might have spent pocket change, trying to get a shag from a charity director.
And the Evening Standard, a chavvy version of the Daily Mail for idiots, slavishly supports Boris.
The idea that an uncommitted; MP, with one of the worst records for political engagement is going to be the next mayor of London, is terrifying. It says you can get the job, because, you're funny, and charismatic, and people liked you on TV.
It says the next MP will be good looking, and funny, and charming. It'll be reign of George W Bushes, with the whole idea of voting for policy, or track record defunct. It's how Hitler got into power.
I like Boris, but as mayor's go he'd be a real Greg Stillson.
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I hate purity, I hate goodness!I don't want any virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone to be corrupt to the bones.
But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
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April 14, 2008, 9:27 PM BST
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Quote: sootyj @ April 14 2008, 7:58 PM BST
I wouldn't trust Ken to feed my cat, and I don't have a cat. I would trust him to manage a 10 billion rail project.
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£30 billion*
(Of course, it's probably not even a real billion anyway.)
Quote: Griff @ April 14 2008, 8:02 PM BST
That's pretty much what he did for our panto. I had crafted some witty lines for him which he binned instantly in favour of spouting extempore poetry, "This beanstalk of Jack's / Grows like Gordon Brown's tax" etc.
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Does anyone know if Boris will have to resign the whip if he becomes London Mayor ?
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I believe he only went into the race after ascertaining that he wouldn't have to, so no. He may find that, in time, he needs to... But no.
I'd love to see him as PM.
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sootyj

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April 14, 2008, 9:28 PM BST
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Can I hate Brown, mistrust Cameron, dislike Livingstone (whilst voting for him), at the same time?
Oh well can we all agree Galloway is an egotistical knob at least.
The ASDA of satire.
I hate purity, I hate goodness!I don't want any virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone to be corrupt to the bones.
But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
1984
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April 14, 2008, 9:34 PM BST
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Quote: Tim Walker @ April 14 2008, 8:55 PM BST
Don't bother, like most of us they too are closet Nazis.
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Quote: sootyj @ April 14 2008, 9:16 PM BST
Sigh read what the Mail, and the Times have to say about him as a mayoral candidate. A funny, brilliant maverick lead around by the nose, by his joyless and rather nasty Australian campaign manager.
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Aren't most Australians nasty and joyless? Bitter for their ancestors having been caught and sent to such a godforsaken place, I reckon!
Quote: sootyj @ April 14 2008, 9:16 PM BST
Ken has achieved, and achieved as mayor. Safer streets, what ever the redtops say, workable transport policies. The guy has seen off strikes, riots, and terrorism.
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What dimension are you living in at the moment?
Quote: sootyj @ April 14 2008, 9:16 PM BST
And he's being hung out to dry because his race adviser might have spent pocket change, trying to get a shag from a charity director.
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Or ten.
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It says you can get the job, because, you're ... charismatic, and people liked you on TV.
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As opposed to Tony Blair becoming PM because he was charismatic, and people liked him on TV...
Quote: sootyj @ April 14 2008, 9:28 PM BST
Can I hate Brown, mistrust Cameron, dislike Livingstone (whilst voting for him), at the same time?
Oh well can we all agree Galloway is an egotistical knob at least.
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Certainly no arguments there!
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April 14, 2008, 9:38 PM BST
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I definitely think it's time for a change in government at the next election though.
I can't stand Brown and judging by opinion polls it looks like i'm not alone.
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April 14, 2008, 9:42 PM BST Edited by Griff on April 14 2008, 9:45 PM BST
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Aren't most Australians nasty and joyless?
G'day, possums!
"'Reality,' sa molesworth 2, 'is so unspeakably sordid it make me shudder.'"
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April 14, 2008, 9:46 PM BST
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Well I said most, not all.
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April 14, 2008, 9:49 PM BST
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Aren't most Australians nasty and joyless? Bitter for their ancestors having been caught and sent to such a godforsaken place, I reckon!
I like Paul Hogan.
What dimension are you living in at the moment?
The real one, there's no serious newspaper that have really been able to stick anything to him (I don't count the Standard as a serious paper), of any significance. The thing about a truly great leader, is you don't notice many of the things because they never happen. e.g. no post July 7 race riots, over all reduction in crime (and violent crime), May day riots finally coming under control. Olympics, and massive business investment into the city. Ken's been an enviably good mayor, and I don't care if he's an antisemitic boozer, who looks like a willy.
Or ten.
Sadly for the rather foolish Mr Jasper, he apparently annihilated his career, and made a total tit of himself. With out ever getting his spuds drained. It looks like he made a school boy error, in not making sure a small number of charities he supported had proper systems in place. Both Labour, and Conservative parties have done far worse before breakfast.
As opposed to Tony Blair becoming PM because he was charismatic, and people liked him on TV...
Hey I hate Tone as much as the next man. Most of his best policies were cribbed from Thatcher. And I'm sick over Labour still blaming Conservatives 10 years into power. I'd like to see a Liberal MP Ming, or that funny fucker who replaced him before Nick Smegg took over.
Certainly no arguments there!
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The ASDA of satire.
I hate purity, I hate goodness!I don't want any virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone to be corrupt to the bones.
But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
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April 14, 2008, 9:56 PM BST
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I'm with Sooty. I'd hate to count Ken as my friend, and there are some things he's done that I don't agree with at all. But he's got a proven record of delivering a multitude of things for the benefit of London and Londoners over 8 years. Boris has a proven record of not being edit his own copy on the Spectator to avoid offending people.
I do have a weird conspiracy theory, though. Brown wants Boris to win, and Cameron wants Ken to win. Why? Because the minute Boris is dropped in out of his depth the reputation of the Tories nosedives, and Labour will pick up the pieces in the zillions of London parliamentary seats come general election time. Cameron knows this, so a narrow defeat would suit him fine.
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April 14, 2008, 10:00 PM BST
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It's what the Times pretty much said on Sunday. A narrow loss to make up for Norris, and Archer, would really suit Cameron.
The ASDA of satire.
I hate purity, I hate goodness!I don't want any virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone to be corrupt to the bones.
But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
1984
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April 14, 2008, 10:07 PM BST
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Quote: sootyj @ April 14 2008, 9:49 PM BST
And I'm sick over Labour still blaming Conservatives 10 years into power.
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Definitely will not argue with you on that one. It's just pathetic.
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April 14, 2008, 10:11 PM BST
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I'm more of an anarchist. I don't care whose in power, as long as people campaign, and politicans have to listen to voters. I'd like to see either no parties, or a coalition.
The ASDA of satire.
I hate purity, I hate goodness!I don't want any virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone to be corrupt to the bones.
But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
1984
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April 14, 2008, 10:13 PM BST
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It was a damn sight easier to vote for Ken when he was indie than since he's been back in the noo labour fold, that's for sure. For me, anyway.
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April 14, 2008, 10:16 PM BST
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Quote: sootyj @ April 14 2008, 10:11 PM BST
I'm more of an anarchist. I don't care whose in power, as long as people campaign, and politicans have to listen to voters. I'd like to see either no parties, or a coalition.
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My Lord, you really ARE an anarchist!
Quote: Badge @ April 14 2008, 10:13 PM BST
It was a damn sight easier to vote for Ken when he was indie than since he's been back in the noo labour fold, that's for sure. For me, anyway.
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With you on that one. Not that I actually did get to vote, but yeah, I know what you mean.
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April 14, 2008, 10:19 PM BST
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And in that respect, I am also a true democrat
Absolutely Badge, I remember taxi drivers backing him. This was the guy to first truly humiliate Blair. He's no friend of Labour, they took him back on his terms.
Damn if I was gay, I'd be getting a chubby for him.
The ASDA of satire.
I hate purity, I hate goodness!I don't want any virtue to exist anywhere. I want everyone to be corrupt to the bones.
But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
1984
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