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Clarkson's always good value.
 
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Quote: manchester's trendy chorlton @ April 14 2008, 3:17 PM BST

racist biggot? old-boys network ignoramus? attention seeking, plastic politician? poster-boy for right-wing apologists? fat faced twat?


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I'll agree partially with the second one.

I don't think being fat is a very good reason to hate him though.
 
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Quote: manchester's trendy chorlton @ April 14 2008, 3:17 PM BST

racist biggot? old-boys network ignoramus? attention seeking, plastic politician? poster-boy for right-wing apologists? fat faced twat?


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What are you basing much of this on? If you read some of the collections of Boris' journalism he actually is a fairly non-judgemental libertarian. A Tory, no doubt, but actually more a a pre-Thatcherite Tory. A lot of the reasons Boris comes over a a buffoon is that his inconsistent views are based on a fundmental modesty.

Watching Boris is just funny. Reading Boris is both funny and thought-provoking.

 
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We will have to agree to disagree I think. I, like many, find him repulsive.
 
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Quote: manchester's trendy chorlton @ April 14 2008, 4:13 PM BST

We will have to agree to disagree I think. I, like many, find him repulsive.


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I find Ken Livingstone pretty repulsive. But I'll leave it there. :)


 
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Ken is a plain dealing bum hole. he gets drunk, brawls, insults people, and every area of London he has been allowed to handle he has excelled at. From Overground (any one remember what a mess that was), to COngestion Charge, to increased police levels (yes there are more), he's an innovator, leader, and politician with out parralel. So frankly I don't care if he's also an objectional so so and so, who looks like a penis tip with that ridiculous scarf.

I still remember him utterly undercutting the fuel protests by walking to work, and suggesting it'd be a good thing for more people to do.

Boris is hugely, funny, charismatic, and very intelligent. He's also a lazy, under acheiver, whose never done anything meaningful in his political career, ever.

He's a charming puppet, for a rather sinister Consrvative Party. A vote for him would be a very big nail in the coffin of British democracy.

As an ambassador, or head of the arts council yes. As mayor, we'll laugh now, but we won't be soon after.
 
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Quote: Tim Walker @ April 14 2008, 4:16 PM BST

I find Ken Livingstone pretty repulsive. But I'll leave it there. :)


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I find pretty much every labour MP repulsive so there you go lol.

 
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Boris is hugely, funny, charismatic, and very intelligent. He's also a lazy, under acheiver.



I've met Boris twice, once in a pub, and a second time when he did a guest spot in a village panto I was musical directing. It was quite challenging working an arrangement of the "Eton Boating Song" into Jack And The Beanstalk and not telling the rest of the band why. (Boris's appearance at this particular charity fundraiser was on the hush-hush until the day.)

And I can vouch that he is very funny, very clever, and very charismatic. And indeed, very huge.

But underachiever ? Really ? He's a Member of Parliament, in fact a Shadow Cabinet Minister, and he might turn out to be Mayor of London. He's a successful broadsheet journalist, magazine editor, and ex President of the Oxford Union. He's a bestselling author of history books, journalism collections and fiction. And on top of all that, he does funny turns on TV.

Regardless of your views on his politics, we should all be such underachievers.



 
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Well said, Griffo!

(May I call you Griffo?)
 
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You may indeed, Zoooooo-ooo.
 
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It's astounding that on a site full of writers, someone such as boris johnson is getting such an easy ride.

Seriously now, is there more to the british flag thing on here than meets the eye? I have noticed a definite right-wing bias on quite a few of the threads...is this a covert tory/bnp site?

just to be safe, I'm going to tell ricky gervais, peter baynam (sp?) et al and get you lot blacklisted!
 
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Hmm. It's quite an intriguing concept to say that because you find Boris very funny and charismatic, that magically makes you a big old racist.

How very prejudiced... :)
 
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Quote: manchester's trendy chorlton @ April 14 2008, 7:32 PM BST

It's astounding that on a site full of writers, someone such as boris johnson is getting such an easy ride.


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Don't fear, some of us still consider him a complete tosser!

 
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I completely understand why you might find his political views abhorrent. (I'm a liberal leftie myself.)
But I think you Tory-haters let that cloud your judgement. He's a very funny guy! I don't see how you can deny that, if you're honest.
 
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It's a comedy site. Boris is a comedy character. He was always going to get an easy ride from me, even if I hadn't met him and liked him. I was just querying Sooty's assertion that Boris is an "underachiever". If you think that makes me a BNP supporter, well, let me assure you I'm not. If you'd seen some of the sketches I've had on at NewsRevue and The Treason Show, you'd know I'm quite happy to give the Tories and Nu Labour both a sound kicking.

But I really don't want to argue politics on here, or religion, or anything else contentious. BSG is a very friendly messageboard and this isn't the place for scrapping over such things.
 
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